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Post by frivolity on Jan 15, 2006 12:27:00 GMT -5
OOOH! AC, they are too kewl. I especially LOVE this one XXXx friv. XXXx Much better than my attempts at messing about.  |
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Post by Hostile on Jan 15, 2006 12:38:47 GMT -5
Well... it's colourful, and I'm feeling encouraged by how rough some of the action is. I really hope this lives up to expectations. *edit* Rehosted: another-world.org.uk/hos/uv.zipPlease dont spread this around on other forums. |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jan 15, 2006 13:48:00 GMT -5
Now that was: BADASS!
Thanks Hostile amigo!
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Post by dank on Jan 15, 2006 16:04:38 GMT -5
I think it got me... didn't fully like it at start, but now I can't stop watching it ;D I think it'd be great with true definition on a theater screen... Can't wait to see this movie, Milla is awesome as always, man, I haven't enough patience  |
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jan 15, 2006 17:34:15 GMT -5
This is the one I'm in love with!  |
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Post by Libby on Jan 15, 2006 18:38:32 GMT -5
Much better than my attempts at messing about. ROFL...Sock Kata!!! ;D |
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Post by FabioQelDroma on Jan 15, 2006 18:51:45 GMT -5
I've seen it like 34565 times already and I'm far from tired of it....Loved it.
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Post by jackmode211 on Jan 16, 2006 2:10:31 GMT -5
yea ive watched it all day yesturday and today...no sign of stopping yet.....
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jan 16, 2006 5:54:14 GMT -5
I do have one small problem with the trailer. I wish they hadn't shown that she had a hologram projector...they should have just cut away to something else from when she drops to her knee with her sword. That has essentially "spoiled" that sequence somehwhat for me now. I would have prefered not to know that it was a projection of Violet.  |
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2006 6:11:01 GMT -5
I do have one small problem with the trailer. I wish they hadn't shown that she had a hologram projector...they should have just cut away to something else from when she drops to her knee with her sword. That has essentially "spoiled" that sequence somehwhat for me now. I would have prefered not to know that it was a projection of Violet. Isn't this getting to be a problem with almost all trailers now? Too much is given away (including endings) and too many action sequences are shown. I don't look at trailers on the PC (and I'm annoyed I did watch the UV one) and I refuse to watch any at the cinema...I look pretty daft with my eyes shut and my fingers in my ears, I know, but at least the film will be fresh. |
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 16, 2006 8:09:25 GMT -5
what's the song starting around 00:44 please, I've been looking for it for ages
Trailer looks kickass !
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jan 16, 2006 9:34:08 GMT -5
what's the song starting around 00:44 please, I've been looking for it for ages Clubbed to Death (Kurayamino Variation) by Rob Duggan. Its on the original Matrix OST. |
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Post by JenGe on Jan 16, 2006 11:15:36 GMT -5
I too noticed several spoilers in the trailer but after The Island I have almost resigned myself to the fact that the studios are going to do this. Not sure from this point if I'll just skip any more UV trailers or not. Usually I do but having a fan site has put me in a odd position.
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Post by Wraith on Jan 16, 2006 12:29:44 GMT -5
Looks awesome! I love the visual style. It's very distinctive, but I'm not sure about the CGI scenery. Maybe if i saw it in a better quality trailer.
Did anyone else notice the Buick Century police car?
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Post by Anonymous on Jan 16, 2006 13:12:45 GMT -5
what's the song starting around 00:44 please, I've been looking for it for ages Clubbed to Death (Kurayamino Variation) by Rob Duggan. Its on the original Matrix OST. Thanks a lot ! I knew I heard it in the Matrix !! |
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Post by wtf on Jan 17, 2006 14:43:37 GMT -5
I've been passing the trailer around to my friends. We're planning to hit the theaters pronto. Even the two of them that didn't like EQ (*gasp*) are running to see Ultraviolet.
We're hoping for a high quality trailer on Apple's website soon!
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Post by danko on Jan 17, 2006 16:49:26 GMT -5
Ehi, I'm glad to see that even females are interested in this movie! It proves that it isn't just about Milla!  In my case, I can't deny I'm always in awe when seeing Milla, so I'm partial... but I'm also a sci-fi lover and a big fan of Equilibrium and the Wimmer_person (I read a couple of interwievs to him, he's damn focused). So I can't really miss this movie, you see  |
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Post by Hazuki on Jan 18, 2006 10:23:21 GMT -5
""Kurt Wimmer is no longer in control of the movie. Screen Gems took the film away from him, finalized all the sound effects, music, and editing without his input. I emailed him over the weekend to see how everything was shaping up and he seemed pretty upset about the whole ordeal. I wasn't a fan of the cut that I saw earlier this year but I believe every director should be allowed to refine his vision until he is absolutely happy with what he has. I'd rather see a mediocre misfire from a talented director than a film that was sliced, diced, and slapped together by a committee."" www.fridaythe13thforum.com/showthread.php?p=860136#post860136Hmmmmm.,..... |
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Post by mkay on Jan 18, 2006 12:08:37 GMT -5
Just like Equilibrium the action looks absolutely stunning. Kurt W.... you are possibly the best action director on the planet. Also the visual style of this film is insane, and tops Equilibrium. Kurt scores 2/2 for stunning looking films. (maybe he has a big hand in the looks...or is just good at picking quality art guys....either way, good job)
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Post by JenGe on Jan 18, 2006 13:16:00 GMT -5
Just like Equilibrium the action looks absolutely stunning. Kurt W.... you are possibly the best action director on the planet. Also the visual style of this film is insane, and tops Equilibrium. Kurt scores 2/2 for stunning looking films. (maybe he has a big hand in the looks...or is just good at picking quality art guys....either way, good job) Well Kurt Wimmer certainly has a visual style that is all his own. You can also see glimpses of it in an earlier work he was fired from, One Man's Justice. Even though his work is absolutely stunning people seem to forget that he is a fairly new director will limited budges who is still honing his skills. For an action junkie like myself it is pure pleasure to watch this new talent unfold and evolve. |
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Post by JenGe on Jan 18, 2006 14:31:01 GMT -5
""Kurt Wimmer is no longer in control of the movie. Screen Gems took the film away from him, finalized all the sound effects, music, and editing without his input. I emailed him over the weekend to see how everything was shaping up and he seemed pretty upset about the whole ordeal. I wasn't a fan of the cut that I saw earlier this year but I believe every director should be allowed to refine his vision until he is absolutely happy with what he has. I'd rather see a mediocre misfire from a talented director than a film that was sliced, diced, and slapped together by a committee."" www.fridaythe13thforum.com/showthread.php?p=860136#post860136Hmmmmm.,..... I've read this same quote on several boards now and if it's true it just breaks my heart because even though we may get to see "Wimmer" images it certainly will not be "his" film. |
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Post by Hostile on Jan 19, 2006 9:20:12 GMT -5
Fuck, they've stolen it from him? *boycott*
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Post by Shichibukai on Jan 19, 2006 9:40:07 GMT -5
""Kurt Wimmer is no longer in control of the movie. Screen Gems took the film away from him, finalized all the sound effects, music, and editing without his input. I emailed him over the weekend to see how everything was shaping up and he seemed pretty upset about the whole ordeal. I wasn't a fan of the cut that I saw earlier this year but I believe every director should be allowed to refine his vision until he is absolutely happy with what he has. I'd rather see a mediocre misfire from a talented director than a film that was sliced, diced, and slapped together by a committee."" www.fridaythe13thforum.com/showthread.php?p=860136#post860136Hmmmmm.,..... can anyone confirm this? i refuse to believe.. |
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Post by JenGe on Jan 19, 2006 10:51:11 GMT -5
can anyone confirm this? i refuse to believe.. The source being cited around the internet is the only one so far. I hope that it isn't true but it has happened to other filmmakers in the past. At this point it's really difficult to tell for sure. |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jan 19, 2006 14:07:56 GMT -5
*rumble growls*
Urge to Kata rising.
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Post by ClericRyan on Jan 19, 2006 15:49:37 GMT -5
I with ya Wolf
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Post by ClericRyan on Jan 19, 2006 15:59:19 GMT -5
ok, Im trying not to freak out. but W T F
I have been waiting for this film, well since seeing EQ, and now I feel that we have been done a terrible injustice. ok il wait to make sure its true before starting a full out riot at the studio
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Post by jackmode on Jan 19, 2006 20:01:16 GMT -5
im glad the spoiled the hologram...i woulda felt like i got cheated if i saw it at the theaters......."ohh shes gonna fight all these people....oh.....nevermind...."
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Post by songjatshariff on Jan 20, 2006 0:48:01 GMT -5
Okay, all the rumors (true or not) about SG taken away the film woke off my tranquil siesta and here is my two cents folks. I posted a version of this opinion on the imdb but here is a thorough analysis:
1st) As with any film produced under a big studio umbrella, no director is ever in 100% control of his/her film, with the exception of very, very few filmmakers out there.
2nd) Now, it is possible as a director to be removed further from the process by the studio, like The Diablo suggests in this case (mentioned in thread above). I don't know if it is true or it is another rumor. There have been hundreds of rumors around as a result of a ridiculously long post-prod and the accompanying (and inevitable) silence about the film from all fronts. We also heard about a year ago that Wimmer was doing re-shoots in LA, which was false. So I no longer believe anything online till I hear it from the horse's mouth. Surely, if all this is true we won't hear it from the horse's mouth till everything is over (since there are contractual clauses that conditions what anybody involved in a film can or cannot say and anybody could be sued by a studio for attempting to sabotage the film). So due silence for the moment.
3rd) About ownership of the film
A film is (almost always) not owned by its director. Even if you wrote, produce and direct your film once the studio is involved in making the production possible, your film belongs to them "in perpetuity throughout the universe" - yes, the contract actually says that. So, if you, as a director, are in control somehow during the editing process along with the editor (largely the most crucial process where you can make or break a film), that's great, but it's borrowed control. And it is loaned by a bunch of businessmen whose jobs is often not to assess the artistic value of a film (or story) but it's profit-making potential and determine a budget for marketing which sometimes equals that of the production of the film. That's why the cheaper the film (to make), the less chances is has to be promoted. Or I should the mid-ground is the danger zone. Very expensive films (+$100mill) could get a $30mill marketing campaing, similarly good independent films made for a mere million could a nice marketing campaign. It simply doesn't make any sense to throw a +30mill marketing campaign to a film that costs 30mill or less. Now, I am not saying I agree with that, it is simply how it works. Again, there are exceptions which sometimes are based on hype (The Blair Witch Project, for example, is an exception where once the studio bought it for a couple of million and they threw a huge amount of money to a cheap film and sold it like candy and made tons of money, it worked.). The set of standards and values these execs use to assess the money-making potential have nothing to do with taste and what cut serves the story or original script better. They might look at what the market wants but if they are giving up on a project, they won't care much about what us, the fans want. That's not their job and even less when a film is put in the "Salvage" drawer. And again I am not even remotely saying this is the case of UV. It simply raises eye brows that a film that has been so long in post is set for a release on Feb 24 and it is Jan 19 and we have what appears to be a semi-official teaser, that although very enticing from an action and visual standpoint, it largely undermines the possible story behind it. Knowing and loving EQ you know the guy had put some "heart" into the story. A smart trailer (and maybe it's coming) should exploit that.
3rd) I hear say Feb, Mar are known for film-dumping months but that doesn't mean anything. There are great films coming out in those months this year, it's all about making it KNOWN to the public with enough time. So this not an indication of anything, unless SG continues to do nothing about it. It doesn't make any sense to me to release a 30mill film that probably (knowing what KW did with EQ) looks like 80mill in 40 days from now with virtually no marketing. The teaser trailer we saw via UGO is only that, a teaser trailer. We should shortly be able to see (if people have common sense) a trailer that (although not spoiling) reveals a bit of what the story is about, otherwise people cannot identify with its characters' motives, i.e. LOVE, revenge, whatever. We see nothing of this (which is crucial to entice audiences from an emotional point of view) in this teaser trailer. I am repeating myself here but bear with me. I could be awefully wrong, but I doubt this film will come out in 40 days as it is advertised in the Sony website. This could change, remember the teaser ONLY SAYS "Coming soon".
4th) Now, The Diablo posted a critique on a test screening on "Ain't It Cool News", long time ago, pretty much destroying the film and then having (supposedly) a follow up with Wimmer himself where Diablo stated that Wimmer was apologetic about certain things that didn't seem to work out in the version they showed at the test-screening. I don't have any reason to believe Diablo is lying on this but what I do find completely ironic is his statement:
"Kurt Wimmer is no longer in control of the movie. Screen Gems took the film away from him, finalized all the sound effects, music, and editing without his input. I emailed him over the weekend to see how everything was shaping up and he seemed pretty upset about the whole ordeal. I wasn't a fan of the cut that I saw earlier this year but I believe every director should be allowed to refine his vision until he is absolutely happy with what he has. I'd rather see a mediocre misfire from a talented director than a film that was sliced, diced, and slapped together by a committee."
Now, not that Diablo is any authority in filmmaking or movie reviewing (it is not his day job; he is on retail) but his "review" had ramifications because it was posted at Ain't it cool news. Now, knowing how insecure studio execs are, why bashing in such a way a movie that is not complete? Hollywood runs on two kinds of fuel: borrowed confidence or fear. Sure, I agree with the fact that Sony should not have showed a test screening or a cut if it was that raw and unfinished or even bad but if it was not finished why bashing it online and creating a wave of panic among people that are so panicky. What's the gain? Diablo could have had the same "correcting" effect if he/she gave that feedback right there and then during the Q&A that takes place after the screening, as it is usually the case.
If studios wanted a wide public critique on a test screening then they would just show it at theaters. You see, that's when ego takes place and empty critique has no value 'cause instead of providing that feedback for the filmmakers to assess it and fix the problem the critique was made public to everyone online (he/she/they just wanted a huge online audience to know you saw it and to know what he/she/they thought of it).
Knowing how chicken-crap some execs are, I assure you that all these bashing online on the test screening had something (however little or big) to do with people backing off and relegating this film to dump-town limbo or at least to where it is right now: 40 days from its "supposed" release and very little noise.
Well, these reviews of a simple test-screening post online for everyone to see could very well be a small part of the inciting reason why a movie could be "sliced, diced and slapped together by a committe".
I guess we'll get to know it all once the movie is out and their makers can talk freely about it. In the meantime, it's all speculation, hear-say and gossiping.
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Post by JenGe on Jan 20, 2006 4:49:07 GMT -5
Hi songjatshariff & welcome, I read what you originally posted at IMDb and am pleased that you reposted it here as well. There is a lot of truth is what you wrote!!
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