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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 27, 2005 13:47:27 GMT -5
Heh, 9 Deaths of the Ninja...the films of Sho Kosugi? Like Pray for Death???
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Post by skippythegator on Nov 27, 2005 13:59:00 GMT -5
I barely remember the titles, but yes - Sho Kosugi was the Man Way of the Ninja was one of my favorites (I think it went by another title in the US though)... btw - last I saw of him, he played a quick cameo in Rutger Hauer's "Blind Fury" - an American version of Zatoichi.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 27, 2005 14:11:47 GMT -5
I have seen that *thread hi-jack for a moment* Blind Fury is one of my all time favourite movies. Sho Kosugi was also the motion-capture man behind the first ever Tenchu PS2 Ninja Game. He was also the bad guy in the TV show: The Master. Am I old or what???
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Post by skippythegator on Nov 27, 2005 14:54:36 GMT -5
lol not much older than me I suspect
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 27, 2005 15:21:46 GMT -5
Probably, you should be able to work out my age. But back to the Gun Kata thing, my problem is that I cannot for the life of me, barring mystical sword/Kung-Fu wicky-woo even contemplate how a trained Spec Ops team could be taken down by two swordsmen, when that team are armed with state of the art weapons and cutting edge equipment.
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Post by preston1580 on Nov 29, 2005 20:34:51 GMT -5
That is simple enough to explain. It would depend on the skill of the combatants. all the hardware in the woirld won't make any difference if the guy using them has no brains.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 30, 2005 11:12:28 GMT -5
The words used here are: Special Operations, usually that indicates a level of training. In the case of this hypothetical scenario, they are assumed to be well trained and well educated in the use of firearms, tactics and the latests Military techniques. So which part of 'well trained' did you misunderstand...? We've wandered from the real world application of Gun Kata, which is a fascinating subject and into the realms of Ninja Schoolboy Fantasy to be blunt. If you can pull a trigger on a machine gun, regardless of training however - you can kill people with it. I don't care if someone's Grandfather happened to be the greatest swordsman in the world...a hail of bullets is hard to stop with a blade Now if the soldier in question had a jam, or he was so dumb he couldn't find the trigger even if it were labelled 'trigger' lit up and flashed, played some stirring music and loudly proclaimed after a minute or so of fumbling - HEY OVER HERE DUMMY I'M THE TRIGGER... Then your swordsmen might have a chance. Otherwise, if you can spell 'Swiss Cheese' you'll understand where I'm coming from on this. Then again, there's always that million to one chance that a Miracle could happen and the team was wiped out by the Lone Wolf and Cub swordsmen. A million to one chance that happens nine times out of ten, is a little more extreme to hope for.
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Post by Observer on Nov 30, 2005 11:28:22 GMT -5
Your problem is you have a superiority complex, Cleric Wolf.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 30, 2005 12:24:31 GMT -5
I hope that's a joke there Observer ?
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Post by Observer on Nov 30, 2005 16:58:01 GMT -5
Naturally. You were making a well thought out argument based on reason rather than fantasy. That's a clear symptom of a superiority complex.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 30, 2005 17:48:53 GMT -5
Naturally. You were making a well thought out argument based on reason rather than fantasy. That's a clear symptom of a superiority complex. *laughs* Gorram'it! Ya gone made me spill my juice! It's kind of a back up for you, out here in the bleak and windy.
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Post by Observer on Dec 1, 2005 2:11:26 GMT -5
I appreciate it, Cleric Wolf. Seriously and truly, thanks. Besides, I think we both know what would really happen if the "spec ops" team saw bullets weren't working against magic-users. The Spec Ops team would shoot nuclear laser beams out of their eyes and fry the two swordsmen to a crisp, like on that episode of Doctor Who. It's come to that by now, hasn't it?
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Dec 1, 2005 8:13:02 GMT -5
*BWHAHAHAS!*
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Post by dark609 on Dec 28, 2005 8:40:57 GMT -5
yeah but maybe its like advanced stuff...like i don't know and i don't think gun kata is real...like human minds are never preidctable, aiming a target 2 metres in front of u is simple...i mean how could u miss it unless tha guy or girls dodges tha damm bullet...lol...
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Xusder
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Huhg, what do I put here?
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Post by Xusder on Oct 1, 2006 3:29:51 GMT -5
Well, I havent posted here in a long time, hello again everybody!
I'm going to try to even up the playing field.
Here's a new situation.
A group of Experienced Special Operations Soldiers against two Experienced Swordsmen.
No guns, just swords or Katanas.
In the complete darkness.
With blindfolds, earmuffs, and class III body armor.
For all the combatants.
And they have to be sleep deprived for eight days.
Who wins?
We do, cause we will be laughing so hard at those fools. ;D
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Post by Lightfighter on Feb 2, 2011 16:01:47 GMT -5
Nice one, Xusder.
I can't help but agree with Observer and all of his research. Observer, you make several very valid and substantial arguments, while DeG and his supporters do not. I am a career military man with 15 years of service, including three tours in Iraq in the last six years. I joined this site because, like a very wise man named Col Rex Applegate said, 'Never stop learning.' He also said, and I'll also give this credit to Col Jeff Cooper, 'It's not important that you hit something; it's important that you hit something important.'
Now, so as not to be confused with any possible virtual tough guys, I will be very specific about my military experience. If any of you dispute this, I will more than be happy to discuss any of your objections in public. My experience includes: training in NEC 9545, which at the time was the Navy's equivalent to the Master At Arms rating, or MA for all of you squids out there. I left the Navy and joined the US Army because the Navy was just boring as shit. I am a graduate of the US Army Airborne School at Fort Benning, GA, and am also a fully qualified Jumpmaster. My first two tours in Iraq were with the 82nd Airborne Division, in the cities of Tal Afar and Sadr City, and various assorted suburbs of each, respectively. I am currently serving with the 25th Infantry Division throughout the province Salah ad Din, which includes the city of Tiqrit (Sadam Hussein's birthplace for those of you who know history).
Now, having worked with Special Operations Forces, IN COMBAT, I can attest to the fact that they need to be vague when it comes to certain things. But Deg and his supporters are just full of hot air. Do yourselves a favor, gentlemen, stick to your GHOST RECON, CALL OF DUTY, or whatever it is you armchair commandos masturbate about these days.
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