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Post by ClericElias on Jun 3, 2003 14:59:18 GMT -5
Hi I live in the uk and am thinking of making the clerics gun out of a bb gun to sell on ebay and was wondering if any one would be interested in buying item and what price people would be willing to pay for them bearing in mind that the bb gun will cost me about £40 (not sure what that is in $) and numbers would depend on demand. so tell me what you think. Thanks ClericElias
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Post by sabeltandcavia on Jun 3, 2003 15:35:25 GMT -5
40 pounds, that's about 60 bucks. What kind of gun do you plan on using?
If you wnat maximum realism, opt for the KSC M93R these are gas-operated BB guns, with full-auto capability AND blowback, just like the real steel.. they sell at Red Wolf Airsoft for 110 and 198 US$, I'd say go with the cheaper one, it's a bit heavier, and the BBs shoot out harder as well.
The other alternative is the spring pistol version. In that case I recommend the Tokyo Marui M92F. The problem with springers is that they don't look as realistic as gas blowbacks though. However, it's for sale on red wolf for $35.
The final alternative is to opt for Tokyo Marui's M92F electric blowback. It doesn't shoot as hard as a springer (let alone a GBB!), but it does have some blowback action (well, more like slideback, no hard kick). BUT on my site ((http://www.geocities.com/sabeltandcavia/)) you can find a how-to guide on how to transform an EBB into a full auto gun, while still maintaining the blowback action. The price of these should be about the same as a springer.
--If you need help, let me know! I am working myself on a custom Tokyo Marui Colt Centimeter Master electronic blowback. Already having it converted to full auto (see my site), plus it runs happy on 9 volts now. I've ran it before at 18 volts (2 9v cells), On 18 volts, it pisses out BBs at a rate of approximately 900 RPM.--
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Post by ClericElias on Jun 3, 2003 16:56:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the info sabeltandcavia but i have found out that the gun is a modified Beretta M92F i was intending on using a spring one of that but if enough people wanted a metal one providing that they would pay the extra i'me shure i would be able to do that do that. I was intending on makeing it as a display pice but i am sure that i could make it fire the bb's. Anyway as i said before if any one is intrested in buying one then just post a message on this board
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Post by NoS on Jun 3, 2003 18:34:26 GMT -5
The M92 of course isn't full auto. I suppose we need a M93R with plenty of modifications to make it work.
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Post by JenGe on Jun 3, 2003 18:34:57 GMT -5
I would be interested in buying one as long as the price wasn't too high.
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Post by ExtraInEquilibrium on Jun 3, 2003 21:08:53 GMT -5
Actually, if you could get a solid 560 gearbox in, coupled with a high-torque motor, I imagine you could make a nice automatic gun.
In my personal opinion, I would opt for the 92F, and it could be easily modified to look like the gun. (With the 560 gear box and motor, you could actually make a SAFE/SEMI/AUTO switch, just like in the movie!) It wouldn't have blowback action, though. The 93R is a nice gun, but it's a bit bulky for this modification. It's your choice.
While I would have to see it, I'd be interested in buying two.
I have a decent number of airsoft guns, as it is, so two more won't hurt.
I am just being cautious. I've never seen your craftsmanship, so don't take offense, but I don't want to pay that much money for something I might end up not wanting.
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Post by MrsPreston on Jun 4, 2003 4:53:48 GMT -5
I'd be interested in buying one. It would be great as a display piece, I would like to have a pair!
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Post by skippythegator on Jun 4, 2003 8:12:39 GMT -5
...don't forget the cleric's name painted on the bottom... (I would be interested in buying, but I don't have too much money to spare )
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Post by Gualie on Jun 4, 2003 16:25:46 GMT -5
Not painted, Engraved into the Magazine seat. I'd be interested in two but I'd want to see them first, or at least some good pics.
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Post by ClericElias on Jun 4, 2003 18:21:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies keep them comming:D THINGS I NEED TO KNOW 1) The price people would be willing to pay in numbers to see if it can be done. Because if people are onley willing to spend $10 then i will not be able to do it and it and it wont be worth it. 2) Would you want to deal thru ebay or directley. 3) would you like the option of your name on the bottom of the Magazine. 4) do you want 1 or 2. HELP Could someone post some screen captures of the gun (as many different ones as pos) because the film is not out in the uk yet. INFOMATION As i said befor am planig on making theas as a display piece to look good maby in a frame or on a stand they will be able to fire the bb's but that is not my main concern getting them to look right is no1. DONT WORRY I can do a good job i have it all planed out just need to know if their is a market for thease things. P.s i will put pics of the item on this board once completed ClericElias
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Post by ClericColeCash on Jun 5, 2003 4:09:16 GMT -5
I would also be interested. How do you intend to "make" this gun, and using what materials (besides the base gun)?
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Post by JenGe on Jun 5, 2003 7:23:12 GMT -5
1) The price people would be willing to pay in numbers to see if it can be done. Because if people are onley willing to spend $10 then i will not be able to do it and it and it wont be worth it. I think my max would probably be in the $75-$100 dollar range but it really would depend on the materials used. I personally like directly through Paypal but Ebay would open your options up to more people. You could actually do both. Options are always a nice touch. I think for me that would depend on the final price. If I could manage two then that would be ideal but I'd be happy with one as well. I'm heading out the beach in a few but you can find some pictures on this thread and also a discussion about the design... equilibrium.proboards17.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1052601876&start=0I'll see if I can dig up any more when I get back.
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Post by MrsPreston on Jun 5, 2003 8:09:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies keep them comming:D THINGS I NEED TO KNOW 1) The price people would be willing to pay 2) Would you want to deal thru ebay or directley. 3) would you like the option of your name on the bottom of the Magazine. 4) do you want 1 or 2. 1) Price around £45-50 each (maybe a bit more) 2) I prefer to do it directly, I do like to use Paypal too 3) I'd like Preston's name on it!! 4) I'd really like 2! - depends on the final price though I only want them as a display piece THANX!!!
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Post by Coolhand on Jun 5, 2003 16:18:15 GMT -5
I'd probably pay £100-£150 for a good quality, 2 pistol set of those guns. It depends on the features (drop-out magasines, working topslide that can lock back in "empty" position, and metal frame would all be nice. Ooh, and the Lock/Semi/Auto switch!) Preston's name on the bottom would indeed be cool. I'd like to say they'd be display only, but I'll probably end up doing Gun-Kata in front of a mirror with them. ;D I suppose spring load wrist holsters, flick-out gouging pins in the handles and a "Gun-Kata for Dummies" manual would be asking for a little too much? Well, I can dream.
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Post by ClericElias on Jun 9, 2003 17:42:39 GMT -5
Hi everyone Good news looking at the prices that people are willing to pay for the gun i am going to be able to make it. I am going to make one and then i will sell it on ebay. I will set up a new message board with some pictures of it and the ref Number to put in to ebay to find it. Some people want to deal directly using pay pal i will be able to do this but at first i will sell my first one on ebay. I am going to do sets of 2 but this will be when i deal directley.
To anser the question from ClericColeCash i will be using a plastic spring bb gun (metal would cost too much but if you want it and are willing to pay the extra i will) and the extended barrel will be made out of metal i am going to have the safe,semi and auto swich as well as the modified hammer and other things but i will have full description and photos once it is complied. Please keep posting messages if you are interested and keep an eye out for my new post. ClericElias
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Post by Phantazmo on Jun 12, 2003 13:36:45 GMT -5
Hi guys, first time posting. My question about the guns is the little spikes on the end of the clips used for bashing. I'm sure they are meant to inflict more pain, but how can they possibly hurt someone through a motorcycle helmet?
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Post by Xenon on Jun 13, 2003 5:58:09 GMT -5
They simply consentrates the force of prestons blows. Instead of the energy in each blow being divided over the entire bottom area of the gun it is consentrated in a few tiny spots, amplifying its piercing possibilities.
This way he dont have to use as much force to break the glass in their helmets and thus can take on more people at a time.
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Post by TreadXSoftly on Jun 13, 2003 15:51:58 GMT -5
Just wanted to say the guns from EQ is damn awesome. Ever since then, I've become a gun fanatic even though I never held one in my hands or don't know shit about 'em. All I know is that magazines holds the bullets(?)...i've learned a little playing Metal Gear Solid games. Nobody can hold a gun and look freakin' awesome better then John Preston.
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Post by BATTY (Roy) on Jun 17, 2003 19:21:48 GMT -5
*BUMP*
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 17, 2003 23:14:08 GMT -5
The the actual gun used for *most* of the props used in the movie (there were a few other models used, but this is the one used for most of the scenes): Beretta 92FS. You can get a really, really high quality resin Airsoft gun from Western Arms (Japan). They're out of stock, but will have more in at the end of the month. Here is the link: www.wa-gunnet.co.jp/english/cool/m92.htmlI'm getting one made using this as a base; I'll put up images when it's done if people are interested.
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Post by JenGe on Jun 18, 2003 8:05:26 GMT -5
Hey... is that you?? I've missed you around here.
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Post by BATTY (Roy) on Jun 18, 2003 18:14:52 GMT -5
Hey... is that you?? I've missed you around here. Yep. I've been lurking around here. ;D ClericElias' idea for the gun sounds like it may work better than my mine & I haven't had much time to work on it anyway. If someone else can come up with a higher quality version, I'll most likely buy it... Your site still seems to be booming though! Dimension Films should be paying you!
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Post by JenGe on Jun 18, 2003 21:02:41 GMT -5
Yep. I've been lurking around here. ;D ClericElias' idea for the gun sounds like it may work better than my mine & I haven't had much time to work on it anyway. If someone else can come up with a higher quality version, I'll most likely buy it... Your site still seems to be booming though! Dimension Films should be paying you! Well, its great to have you at least lurk. Did you notice that Roy is one of my harem draft picks on CHUD?? Anyway if you look on the items thread there seems to be two different gun options (BB & Paint Ball). I would love to see yours if you ever get the time to finish it. About the site...we now have 99 registered members. Not shabby. I knew once the DVD hit the word would get out. And as to money, I think the passion would wane if I got paid for working on this site. The worse thing I ever did was to write reviews for films and get paid for it. Almost destroyed my enjoyment of going to the theater entirely.
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Post by Jaux on Jul 11, 2003 11:02:10 GMT -5
WoW! Sounds SWEET! But, I still don't understand, I know it will have the Auto switch but will it actually have Full Auto capabilities?
BTW I'm willing to pay 75-125 USD for one gun, 150 USD for two
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Post by thunderbolt885 on Jul 20, 2003 11:53:47 GMT -5
hey, i just found this place, i made some compensators(thats what they called?) and they go onto a uhc m9 beretta. it looks just like the ones used in equilibrium, i made them from thick stryene sheets and didnt reall ycost much, an don another note: you shouldnt buy 2 of teh cleric beretta springers unless they are for display because its im possible to shoot 2 springers at same time because of you having to cock it back each time. i made the compensators for under $5 if your interested i could make some more and fr you al, for the guns base www.affordableairsift.comgo to springers then i think heavy weights, maybe regular , not sure but i would only charg hmm, lemme think... im guessing $8 plus shipping. reply if your interested, ill post pictures too later on
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Post by JenGe on Jul 20, 2003 20:34:51 GMT -5
im guessing $8 plus shipping. reply if your interested, ill post pictures too later on Ya, post pictures... that what people would have an idea about what you are offering.
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Post by Tavolski on Jul 22, 2003 21:07:45 GMT -5
...im guessing $8 plus shipping. reply if your interested, ill post pictures too later on Yes, please post pictures. I purchased an airsoft gun to do some experimenting of my own, but if yours is nice, I'll buy yours instead of the hassle of building one.
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Post by Arnie on Jul 24, 2003 7:28:07 GMT -5
If you're looking for something better than a simply plastic Airsoft pistol, there's a nice fellow on our forums that professionally makes the Cleric sidearms: www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=24Available in full auto or semi Airsoft versions, true copies of the on screen versions (note there is nore than on version used in the film). Please note I'm not the guy selling the replicas, just a friend of his. The pistols are based on gas blowback replicas so are the most realistic pieces you'll be able to find. There's also a one off piece up for sale: www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5423The one off piece comes with: Aluminium Alloy Frame (cnc) Aluminium Alloy Slide (cnc) Aluminium Alloy Front End (cnc) Upgraded Internals FULL Engraving to include the clients name and number. New Style Selector Lever New Steel Hammer (cnc) Upgraded Recoil Springs Two Magazines Ally Flight Case Certificate of Authenticity RARE Japanese Film Poster (not seen in the west) A copy of the Film(dvd) (Genuine not a rip) There's a limited amount of these custom pieces left now. Around 50 or 250 made I gather. Arnie, ArniesAirsoft.co.uk
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Post by ClericRyan on Jul 24, 2003 11:17:04 GMT -5
guns guns guns
I kinda thought it would have looked better using a desert eagle mark 10, plus the .44 caliber ammunition is always more fun then .09
But you gotta love a handgun that has an Auto setting. I live in Canada, so you are not allowed to purchase handguns here. Well you can , but its very difficult.
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Post by Psoriac on Jul 24, 2003 13:29:28 GMT -5
guns guns guns I kinda thought it would have looked better using a desert eagle mark 10, plus the .44 caliber ammunition is always more fun then .09 But you gotta love a handgun that has an Auto setting. I live in Canada, so you are not allowed to purchase handguns here. Well you can , but its very difficult. Ever try to fire a Desert Eagle on full auto? Unless you're the Hulk I think you're gonna lose the gun after the third round. ;D
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