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Post by Hostile on Jan 13, 2004 17:23:01 GMT -5
aw, and i thought you just hated me ;D oh yea Jon i honestly think the clerics customize their weapons too. just because you're on prozium doesn't mean you can't desire performance suited to your needs... "I didnt have any feelings about it, I was merely attempting to optimise."  I love the idea of them having their own weapon preferences.. in my fan fics the foreign clerics all use different pistols. The French one uses a single revolver, total accuracy, headshots every time... boom, boom, boom. |
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Post by Rymel on Jan 15, 2004 18:15:29 GMT -5
"I didnt have any feelings about it, I was merely attempting to optimise." I love the idea of them having their own weapon preferences.. in my fan fics the foreign clerics all use different pistols. The French one uses a single revolver, total accuracy, headshots every time... boom, boom, boom. haha, great quote for what i said ;D hrm, that's a good idea for fic writing. moviewise i think libria was the only city like that. at least that's the idea i got from it. i actually considered revolvers as cleric weapons since they don't eject rounds. however the six round limitation will be a problem... |
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Post by Cleric Queenie on Jan 31, 2004 9:32:40 GMT -5
i hate Brandt not only does he not use his pistol but he doesnt exactly know how to use a Samauri Sword...i think he deserved getting his face cut off completely...by the way that was true bad ass by Preston on that one... C K Y Yep, when I read that comment I couldn't help thinking that he truly "LOST HIS FACE". And in terms of the Samurai this is quite a big issue. Losing face, losing honour. |
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 1, 2004 14:09:10 GMT -5
Have you ever wonderd if it is possible to cut somones face of??? wow, i want!!  |
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Post by Rymel on Feb 1, 2004 19:55:10 GMT -5
i'll let you know when i scrounge up $2,000US for a handmade sword made by japanese artisans |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 7:09:25 GMT -5
And the rest...
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Post by akumabito on Feb 2, 2004 10:40:13 GMT -5
The different lengths on the Cleric sidearms actually would make sense if they would be custom made to each and every Cleric, to optimize his effectiveness with the gun.
Perhaps the gun's length has to be relative to the length of an arm, (the longer the arm of the user, the longer the gun) in order for the gun to become an almost natural extension of the arm.
Another thing is the weight of the gun. The barrel extension makes the gun more front-heavy. Some people just like that better. Maybe that's all dependant on the Cleric's preference..
btw, JenGe I seem to have some trouble logging in. It works fine on all areas of the forum, except this one, here I get logged off automatically, though it does say I'm logged in on the other areas of the forum.
Does the problem lie with my computer or with the forum software?
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Post by akumabito on Feb 2, 2004 10:51:06 GMT -5
Nevermind, it seems to be working ok again, lol.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 11:06:37 GMT -5
The only problem that I have with different lengths and variations in EQ is that is this.
It's a society based upon conformity, to be different is to be considered non-conformist. I think everything would be precise, worked out to the nth degree.
Including the lengths of firearms, and the types.
I don't really see in my personal worldview of the whole thing, anything changing beyond what's considered to be appropriate.
But that's just my view of it *GRIN*
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Post by Rymel on Feb 2, 2004 12:38:03 GMT -5
very good point, but then why would brandt even be allowed to wield a G36? i know i know, hollywood, but still...i think with prozium still allowing a level of feeling they may allow them to change lengths. but your opinion makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 12:43:46 GMT -5
It's a rifle though, which is Bullpup in design IIRC and also looks /the/ part.
Sweepers have them and if you notice, that the Sweepers also have similar firearms. They seem to have them in groups.
The rifle, the shotguns and the sniper rifles are all grouped into standard issues. Compared to the Resistance who weild a variety of weapon types.
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Post by Rymel on Feb 2, 2004 13:35:52 GMT -5
i know you mean, and i agree too, but i was talking about the clerics and the changing lengths issue. you were saying how they would probably all be the same no matter what. so what makes brandt so special he can use a rifle? certainly not rank.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 13:44:21 GMT -5
Adaptation, also, it's another clue to the double standards of Father's Regime, if you look at it.
EQ is dotted with dozens of tiny pointers to the viewer, showing the fact that while everyone else is expected to conform - there are others out there who can get away with murder.
A certain historical quote comes to mind:
Let them eat cake.
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Post by Rymel on Feb 2, 2004 13:56:33 GMT -5
i guess, i don't see it as adaptation though. i saw it as an obvious clue to bein off the dose, and grounds for arrest. then again most of brandt's behavior came off as obvious sense offense, and a big neon sign that he's in on something bigger. all 3 clerics we've seen only used handguns, and double standard or not, such a low-ranking cleric should not be privy to such things if the cleric in command isn't. just my opinion.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 13:58:19 GMT -5
Precisely...but Father doesn't want Brandt arrested, too useful to his plans.
No matter what should have happened, DuPont was pulling the strings, against such puppeteering only one man could eventually win.
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Post by Ooktavia on Feb 2, 2004 15:16:54 GMT -5
Perhaps the differing lengths ect are not standard in the fact they are not identical, but are standard in that they attept to bring every cleric to the same level of ability and effeicency? Would that work? I know not about guns, ect, sorry...  Although I think slicing someone's face off would be difficult if you go through the jaw as Preston does, becuase the jaw and teeth are pretty tough babies. Not impossible to do, but it would take an enormous amount of force as well as a *very* sharp, strong blade, else wouldn't it simply slide through and off the face at an angle? I spend too much time thinking about these things. |
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Post by Slicing on Feb 2, 2004 15:27:24 GMT -5
Actually, i think it would not be that hard, couse there are katas that can cut trough ANYTHING (except diamonds i think), so i think if you know how to use a kata you can do it, ohh yeah  |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 2, 2004 18:41:35 GMT -5
A kata is a series of Martial Arts moves that are designed to take down a number of opponents or act as an excersise.
A Katana is a Japanese Samurai sword!
Gah!
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Post by Ooktavia on Feb 2, 2004 22:19:52 GMT -5
Details, details... But are there katas in any martial arts that include slicing off your enemys face? The Gun-kata parts of the DVD don't have such details, sad, no? Now I don't want guns to try and practise gun kata- but a nice katana *would* be fun. If expensive. You can do lots of interesting things with really sharp blades, after all. ;D Like... make really good sandwiches. Or macrame. Or some other craft... Obviously. I wouldn't be thinking about anything else, now would I? Would I? *small mysterious smile, ala Mona Lisa* |
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Post by Rymel on Feb 2, 2004 22:43:50 GMT -5
filipino martial arts usually work on that. i've seen some exercises where the end movement involves chopping off someone's head...and what's macrame?
wolf, i love how you disappear for a few days, then pop up again with the great posts ;D
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Post by Ooktavia on Feb 3, 2004 5:56:25 GMT -5
Macrame is some kind of arts and crfats activity, maybe involvling papier mache or knitting..... |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 3, 2004 6:52:58 GMT -5
Details, details... But are there katas in any martial arts that include slicing off your enemys face? The Gun-kata parts of the DVD don't have such details, sad, no? Now I don't want guns to try and practise gun kata- but a nice katana *would* be fun. If expensive. You can do lots of interesting things with really sharp blades, after all. ;D Like... make really good sandwiches. Or macrame. Or some other craft... Obviously. I wouldn't be thinking about anything else, now would I? Would I? *small mysterious smile, ala Mona Lisa* Face slicing Katas, not that I know of. I have a couple of nice Katanas, that are fairly sharp Infact if you look around the post your pic thread, you'll see at least one of them. |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 3, 2004 6:53:45 GMT -5
filipino martial arts usually work on that. i've seen some exercises where the end movement involves chopping off someone's head...and what's macrame? wolf, i love how you disappear for a few days, then pop up again with the great posts ;D The trick is knowing when to post and when not to post, like Gun Kata, when you shoot and when you don't shoot And Rymel: Main Entry: mac.ra.m Variant(s): also mac.ra.me /'ma-kr&-"mA/ Function: noun Etymology: French or Italian; French macram, from Italian macram, from Turkish makrama napkin, towel, from Arabic miqramah coverlet : a coarse lace or fringe made by knotting threads or cords in a geometrical pattern; also : the art of tying knots in patterns |
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Post by Rymel on Feb 3, 2004 20:52:46 GMT -5
sounds like fun
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Post by TrustKill on Feb 5, 2004 10:00:49 GMT -5
god knows i want to learn the kata that can slice off someones face...
-TrustKill-
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Post by TrustKill on Feb 5, 2004 10:02:07 GMT -5
oh... and does someone want to hook me up w/ one of those "anything slicing" katanas too? that would be great.
-TrustKill-
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Post by ClericHeliX on Feb 6, 2004 13:12:24 GMT -5
why spend so much money issuing multiple clips with extendable spikes which would simply complicate the mechanism in the gun and clip giving a larger chance of jamming?[/qoute] Im sure they'd have some clever way of stopping the guns jamming |
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Post by Rymel on Feb 6, 2004 14:02:48 GMT -5
Im sure they'd have some clever way of stopping the guns jamming the more complicated you make something the more prone it is to jamming. simple fact of life. making a clever way to stop it complicates it further. what if that breaks too? |
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Post by akumabito on Feb 7, 2004 12:50:23 GMT -5
Lol.. looks like we're talking about anything German (particulary guns and cars): Good and effective, but overly complex.
When it works, it works good, and it's hard to beat: when it breaks it's a pain in the butt to fix!
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Post by TrustKill on Feb 9, 2004 11:03:20 GMT -5
you said it.
-its a fact that, even though i hate them for aesthetics, revolvers are much more reliable than automatic pistols.
-less moving parts = less parts to stop working.
-i still think they are ugly though.
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