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Post by H2SO4 on Oct 16, 2004 14:45:43 GMT -5
Intersting fight. However, very hard to come to a solid conclusion, unless of course you're seriously biased My head is only so big, so i will only be able to say a teeny weeny bit of all the theories i've thought about. I'll use people's theories and arguments for my own arguments. Hope you people don't mind, and I also must stress that disagreement of your argument is by no means me trying to offend you, or disagree with you as a person =P Ok, lets go. You CANNOT compare Neo and Preston. The fact is, they have different backgrounds and so it makes it very hard to do so. Sure, Preston trained all his life to get to where he is...Neo trained for a day and became king of the Matrix? Who is more efficient? (Sus...the point is, Neo will still p00n Preston if they were in the matrix =P, even if he is a "lazy" bastard ) Nouseforaname: well even if Preston could figure out the matrix, what then? Wow...this world operates on weird codes. Now i truly understand that i'm totally screwed because i'm not the one...agree with JenGe, good idea Keanu Reeves knows all his shit. He had to go through real training to achieve what he has done. You can see this by the lack of speeding up and taking out frames in the Matrix, whereas with Equilibrium, as much as a like it, a lot of it you can see that it has been sped up and made jerky to make it look cooler Gun Kata is cooler than ninjitsu Keanu Reeves vs Christian Bale...hardcore fight? who would win...i really wonder =P In the Matrix, the fact is that the role doesn't require emotion. The main character is meant to be quite emotionless most of the time, mainly because he's stunned by the truth of everything, and he also needs to keep his cool in order to concentrate. IN the course of the movie, there was no need for him to cry...so how the heck do we know if he CAN or not? Unfortunately, many of the arguments, I've noticed, swivel on the point that each character were presented different opportunities, and therefore, had different reactions...which makes it ever so much harder to compare them. It's like saying is Chinese or Swiss poetry better? =P OK, sure, if Preston was in the MAtrix Neo would easily win. But if they were in real life, Preston would kick Neo...well DUH. That's one of the dumbest (no offense to anyone =P) observations, because, geez, ffs in the matrix people don't have training in the real world...there's no need, and neither is there any facilities or people to teach it! And what? wait a second...seems people in the real world of the matrix don't even have handguns!?!?! WOw, i wonder who will win now... lol i think maybe i'm taking this discussion a bit too seriously I'll leave it at that for now...until something else pops into my small head
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Post by Star on Oct 24, 2004 16:14:43 GMT -5
Good points!! this is a very interesting thread ;D
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 25, 2004 6:00:38 GMT -5
It really is, Star most especially if it involves CB and KR.
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Post by ClericThorpe on Feb 3, 2005 22:08:42 GMT -5
If this is irrelevant tell. Here's my two cents on the matter. Preston would destroy Neo.(This is strong stuff coming from a former Matrix wacko) And Christian Bale is just flat out better than Keanu Reeves. ;D
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Post by aka Jack Torrence on Feb 5, 2005 17:03:06 GMT -5
Neo vs. Preston?
Inside the Matrix: Neo, with his little finger.
In the Nether: Preston, with one trigger finger.
An open-and-shut case, I'd have thought.
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Post by christian on Feb 17, 2005 15:12:20 GMT -5
preston 1 .......neo 0
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Post by wtf on Feb 23, 2005 10:13:26 GMT -5
Nice username, you're going to be popular here.
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Post by Wraith on Apr 11, 2005 22:31:16 GMT -5
Neo vs. Preston? Inside the Matrix: Neo, with his little finger. In the Nether: Preston, with one trigger finger. An open-and-shut case, I'd have thought. and in real life: Christian Bale, hands down.
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Post by MisterAnderson on Apr 12, 2005 9:12:48 GMT -5
My money would be on Keanu with all that martial arts training for the 3 Matrix films. Easy money methinks...
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Post by pyro on Apr 13, 2005 0:47:48 GMT -5
My money would be on Keanu with all that martial arts training for the 3 Matrix films. Easy money methinks... guns or no guns? because we would all know who would win with guns
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Post by LoneClericCobra on Apr 26, 2005 8:49:51 GMT -5
guns or no guns? because we would all know who would win with guns We're still comparing real-life actors Reeves and Bale, right? In that case I guess they're about even in marksmanship. And to answer Mr.Anderson, yes, KR's kung fu training would definetively give him an edge, but I wouldn't say a decisive one. CB -is- a healty and fit person with an excellent kinesthetic sense. Besides, as far as I know Keanu Reeves has never experienced a real fight, while Bale has spent his youthood chain-fighting in the slums of his hometown. ...oh wait. That was Bruce Lee ;D
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Post by gunnut on May 24, 2005 8:52:31 GMT -5
"6) Christian would crush him faster than the career of Ricki Lake." I think even Ricki Lake could beat Neo. ;D No, seriously, when you look at the two characters (Neo and Preston, of course. Forget Ricki Lake) you get the impression that Neo wouldn´t have a chance against Preston. When Neo beats down ten guys he has that stupid "Whoa,man, did I just do that?" look in his face, while preston just picks up the dog and walks away, instead of playing Superman. Even Gun-kata looks more effective than whatever the f...ck neo´s trying to pull off
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Post by JenGe on May 24, 2005 10:04:00 GMT -5
"6) Christian would crush him faster than the career of Ricki Lake." I think even Ricki Lake could beat Neo. ;D No, seriously, when you look at the two characters (Neo and Preston, of course. Forget Ricki Lake) you get the impression that Neo wouldn´t have a chance against Preston. When Neo beats down ten guys he has that stupid "Whoa,man, did I just do that?" look in his face, while preston just picks up the dog and walks away, instead of playing Superman. Even Gun-kata looks more effective than whatever the f...ck neo´s trying to pull off Just so that you know there are a bunch of Matrix fans here on this board as well. Don't be surprised if you see a big stick heading your way.
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Post by gunnut on May 24, 2005 10:51:22 GMT -5
Hey, I haven´t been practising Gun-kata in my bathroom without a reason! (By the way, check out www.flashplayer.com/animation/thematrixstillhasyou) "The Matrix is powered by a 56k modem"
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Post by aka Jack Torrence on Jun 13, 2005 7:03:13 GMT -5
I'd much rather see a rumble between on the one hand Neo, Morpheus and Trinity and on the other hand Preston, Brandt, and Mary. Then I'd watch Agent Smith kill them all.
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Post by JenGe on Jun 13, 2005 14:52:49 GMT -5
I'd much rather see a rumble between on the one hand Neo, Morpheus and Trinity and on the other hand Preston, Brandt, and Mary. Then I'd watch Agent Smith kill them all. bahahahah!! I can just see that one as a comic strip!!
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Post by gunnut on Jun 13, 2005 15:09:28 GMT -5
Actually, Agent Smith is just as "plasticky" as Neo and company. Nobody beats Preston!!!
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Post by yeats on Jun 20, 2005 0:15:41 GMT -5
Now if you look at the origin of this topic you will see that Sus only compared the character traits of beloved John Preston and Neo. Which if there is to be any comparison it should be by character itself. Now I'm not planning to waste to much time. So I will not talk about both characters' traits; being that we already know them. Instead I shall give you my choice of the better man: John Preston, Highest rank of the Tetragrammaton. Why? Simply because he's human. He cries. He falls in love out of truth not prophecy. Lastly in the Matrix all Neo wanted was to stop the machines. John Preston could die no matter what, he didn't have to wait to fulfil a prophecy. He is mortal in every sense of the word. Like a true hero of ancient tales, he was a regular man doing something extraordinary. Also In EQ you could see that John wanted just to sit down and to laugh, to cry, and to possibly hug his children. But instead of going and doing so, he sacrificed his emotions for awhile for a more selfless mission. I don't think Neo never really thought about what he would do after his job was done. Neo= The One John Preston= Tetragrammaton. (Come on people which title sounds cooler. The One? No, you about The One in every other story. Tetragrammaton? Yes, As soon as I heard that title I was like, "How fricken cool!" ) Besides every now and again when John shot a gun, the fire from the barrel would make a "T" I'm not even sure Neo could pull that trick off. By, the by, In no way do I mean to bash either movies, both are really good, but I'm just saying that in the end Wimmer pulled of a slightly better job than the W Bros (In my opinion). I guess that because of that opinion my comparison was a little biased, but how can we live life consciously without our own biases. Just make sure they're healthy and stable.
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Post by bikemama on Jun 20, 2005 11:07:49 GMT -5
Neo is very good with guns, but only virtually. So my bet is absolutely JP.
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Post by ClericThorpe on Jun 30, 2005 8:01:54 GMT -5
Christian Bale...yessss ;D
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Post by Richard Hannah on Aug 20, 2005 0:32:32 GMT -5
I say Preston would win.
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Post by Greyflower on May 14, 2006 22:42:09 GMT -5
Neo is a brazen cheater! And what is more, he's a dull and lazy cheater (being unable to do something himself, he was given cheatcodes by Morpheus and his team)... By the way, the word TETRAGRAMMATON is a substitute for the secret name of God (the One which is not to be spoken in vain) - the four letters serving as a (cheat)code to the Universe . P.S. There are 4 ways of playing games: 1.You play a game being aware of the rules but not observing them; 2.You play a game being aware of the rules and observing them; 3.You play a game being unaware of the rules; 4.You play a game being unaware of your playing a game. Which is yours?
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Post by JenGe on May 15, 2006 10:14:38 GMT -5
Hi Greyflower and welcome to the site!! You might find Mr. Anderson heading your way soon. The idea of cheatcodes is an interesting one. I had not thought of that before.
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Post by Brother Bishop on May 19, 2006 22:38:22 GMT -5
Neo, because he was born into and from the matrix, is able to downloads wealth of information. Technically, he doesn't know all his martial arts JUST inside the matrix. he carries that knowledge with him into the real world as well. He would be able to know/use his martial arts against Preston. The ONLY thing Neo doesn't have is spoon bending powers and the ability to jump off buildings. He has more martial arts knowledge and equal/little less firearm knowledge than Preston because all of that knowledge is stored in his head, and is used on a regular basis, even if it IS in the matrix.
In a gun fight, Preston can still come out on top because of his training and condition. If it ever got Melee with hands, feet, and martial weapons, Preston would be al-capowned because Neo simply has more knowledge than any martial arts master in the world.
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Post by Greyflower on May 20, 2006 10:14:12 GMT -5
Hi Greyflower and welcome to the site!! Hi JenGe! Nice to meet you. The site is super, I wish I could drop in more often.
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Post by MisterAnderson on May 22, 2006 10:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by Witcher Wolf on May 22, 2006 10:18:50 GMT -5
HAHA!
Dude that's classic!
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Post by JenGe on May 22, 2006 12:15:14 GMT -5
I'm at Panera's right now on a Wi/Fi hot spot and they are blocking access to the site. I'll have to take a look later. I knew you would be along sooner or later. ;D
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Post by wtf on May 23, 2006 13:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by Greyflower on May 25, 2006 20:59:38 GMT -5
The idea of cheatcodes is an interesting one. I had not thought of that before. That makes the phrase "Tetragrammaton. There's nothing we can't do" sound a little bit different. ;D
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