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Post by PBateman on May 18, 2003 11:48:29 GMT -5
Does anybody know what material was used to make the cleric'c coat.
I have tried looking online for information but I have had no joy.
I am thinking about trying to get this coat custom made, I am going to draw a rough pattern, so if anybody has any information that could help me, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your time.
PBateman
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Post by JenGe on May 18, 2003 22:26:06 GMT -5
Hi PBateman and welcome,
I have no clue what the actual fabric is. It appears to be some kind of medium weight suit type of material. If you bring a picture to any good tailor or seamstress they should be able to work with you on finding the right fabric. I recommend getting samples of the fabric before you have them make anything though.
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Post by warnec on Jun 14, 2003 12:01:42 GMT -5
I will see a tailor!!!
Not now, because summer is coming and this suit would be too hot to wear so it's not worth it but in automn, I'll do it with one of my friends. So if anybody learn what the material is used, I want to know it too!! And if no one knows, well! I'll do as you said JenGe! Bring a picture.
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Post by Prozium on Jun 22, 2003 22:04:27 GMT -5
Hs anyone tried contacting the Equilibrium costume designer Joseph A. Porro? You can find his info at: us.imdb.com/Name?Porro,%20Joseph%20A. I'm just wondering what they did with all the outfits, maybe one of you can enlighten me |
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 22, 2003 23:00:23 GMT -5
Hs anyone tried contacting the Equilibrium costume designer Joseph A. Porro? You can find his info at: us.imdb.com/Name?Porro,%20Joseph%20A. I'm just wondering what they did with all the outfits, maybe one of you can enlighten me When a movie is done filming, the props are handled one of three ways. The dispensable ones (too beat up, one-time-use only, etc) are thrown away, others are given to cast/crew as keepsakes, and the rest are put into storage by the company. If you listen to the director commentary, you learn that a lot of props were simply left on the set in Germany. What happened to them afterwards is anyone's guess. |
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 22, 2003 23:11:02 GMT -5
I will see a tailor!!! Not now, because summer is coming and this suit would be too hot to wear so it's not worth it but in automn, I'll do it with one of my friends. So if anybody learn what the material is used, I want to know it too!! And if no one knows, well! I'll do as you said JenGe! Bring a picture. I am fairly sure that the material is a polyester blend. If you look at the way it bends and creases, and the way light reflects off of it, leather and cloth are ruled out. I'm not a tailor, but I'm pretty "into" fabrics. Ask your tailor what he would use to make a rainproof overcoat out of. The thickness of the jacket is most likely due to padding that was used. Keep in mind that it was freezing cold in Germany when they filmed the movie, so a lot of the bulk is probably just insulation. |
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Post by warnec on Jun 23, 2003 16:15:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the info!
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 24, 2003 1:59:08 GMT -5
One thing I noticed is the collars, especially on the white uniform that Preston wears at the end and in some of the suits the extra's are wearing. They all have the Chinese style suits look, with the neck lines like Nehru jackets. The outfits that the Chinese martial artists wear are made of silk. Not only that, but I thought the movie on a whole had a Red China, Mao Tse-tung feel to it. Watch old film of Communist China and see what I mean.
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Post by skippythegator on Jun 24, 2003 4:36:19 GMT -5
They do look like Chinese collars, now that you mentionn it. I first thought they looked like priests' white collars. In fact I even thought the cleric's coats looked more like cassocks.
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 24, 2003 12:19:28 GMT -5
I don't think that observation is wrong either, though. Wimmer's done a cool job at combining a lot of different things into a movie. I get the impression that there's religious undertones, too. DuPont even mentions belief. When you make a futuristic movie, it makes sense to look at the present and try to imagine how things blend into the future. The uniforms everyone wears obviously are an important part of that society since dressing as you choose is not allowed. Like... we'll never see a Cleric wearing trousers that hang to his knees.  Update: Wimmer mentioned in the DVD commentary that the Cleric suits were fashioned after a 19th Century Deacon's frock. I've tried to find some pictures on the web, but didn't come up with anything right away. It's always possible to try and find some premade designs of the frock and alter them to fit the Cleric's suit. |
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 24, 2003 22:29:28 GMT -5
Actually you're all pretty close, but not quite. The outter coats (two rows of buttons and the large collar) are based on 19th century deacon frocks. The inner suit is based on a mix between a Mandarin collar style suit (aka Chinese style, but Mandarin is the official term) and a priest's uniform. The traditional Mandarin collar has a slight gap at the neck, and doesn't rise as high. If you notice in the movie Preston's suit closes completely and rises fairly high up his neck. |
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 24, 2003 23:29:18 GMT -5
Baha...  and the white suit is taken from the white Chinese mourning suit that Bruce Lee wore in The Chinese Connection. Man, I used to love Bruce Lee.  |
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 25, 2003 3:56:21 GMT -5
Man, I used to love Bruce Lee. What made you stop? I still love him. ;D |
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 25, 2003 11:46:22 GMT -5
;D Good catch, Cleric.
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Post by Alex on Jun 27, 2003 4:00:27 GMT -5
Hi their, can I join? Why don't you search about Japanese Navy uniform?  We Japanese think Preston's costumes are very familiar to us. The white one looks like Japanese Navy officers in old time. And now, we always look similar design cothes in our daily life. School uniforms for junior high and high school boys. Those are not exactly same design, though. ;D Lots of Japanese people who saw this film say Preston's last white unifome make us imagine our old Navy uniform. High collar, long saber. So cool. I try to find if I could get any pictures in Japanese site, if you want. But I'm not sure wheter I could get it or not... |
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 27, 2003 4:41:54 GMT -5
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Post by JenGe on Jun 27, 2003 5:35:45 GMT -5
Hi their, can I join? ... I try to find if I could get any pictures in Japanese site, if you want. But I'm not sure wheter I could get it or not... Sure you can!! We're glad to have you. If you find any pictures please post them here. |
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Post by Alex on Jun 27, 2003 11:51:06 GMT -5
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Post by JenGe on Jun 27, 2003 19:09:14 GMT -5
Okay, I searched and got lots of pictures(^-^;; Of course those are not exactley same as Preston's. But maybe you would understand that I said "We are very familiar to that kind of design. Before see pictures, remember this please. I post those links just as reference datas, no more and no less. Okay? Very interesting Alex!! Thanks again!! |
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and the white suit is taken from the white Chinese mourning suit that Bruce Lee wore in The Chinese Connection.
