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Post by Akimbo on Feb 6, 2004 23:48:32 GMT -5
I don't know if this has ever been brought up in these forums or if anyone else has seen it, but I was watching EQ the other night and I saw some something weird during the big-"hall" shootout, so i rewinded and slowmo-ed the dvd, and found this:  There's strings attached to the bobble-cartidges! Someone was puppeteering the ammo!  Here's another version, Akimbo-fied. If you think I photoshopped it, watch it yourself in slow-mo! |
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Post by MAX on Feb 7, 2004 1:27:11 GMT -5
We/you care why?  |
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Post by Akimbo on Feb 7, 2004 3:46:37 GMT -5
because originally I thought that those ammo cartridges were actually balancing. And it turns out that they dont. maybe other people would also like to know what I found.
people discuss how the special effects in EQ are done in these forums, and I thought that I could add to the discussion.
but I don't care that you don't care, I just wanted to share.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Feb 7, 2004 5:37:02 GMT -5
Good observation, Akimbo.
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Post by MAX on Feb 7, 2004 6:24:21 GMT -5
because originally I thought that those ammo cartridges were actually balancing. And it turns out that they dont. maybe other people would also like to know what I found. people discuss how the special effects in EQ are done in these forums, and I thought that I could add to the discussion. but I don't care that you don't care, I just wanted to share. Oh, ok. I didn't mean to anger you. Friends?  |
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 7, 2004 7:37:27 GMT -5
erm, i just have a question: why would you want to have a loose string holding the ammo?? i mean look, the string is on the other side of the ammo, which is the side where it would probobaly (if they werent real) fall down to. here:  1. The clips seem to fall to the right side---> so why would you have a string to pull them there, which moreover is loose??? 2. As i said, the clips seem to fall on the right side---> 3. The circle: there is no other string that would pull the clip on the other side. 4. Later on the loaded his gun with those very clips, and i doubt that it would work to load it with a string attached. So that could probobaly not be a stringie thingie, but more likely a recorder mistake or sumfin.  |
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Post by JenGe on Feb 7, 2004 9:41:06 GMT -5
Yes, I had heard about this but it makes no diff to me. Sci/fi & action films are always full of this kind of stuff. I always love that big tree trunk thingie sticking out of the bottom of the truck in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Every film has them...you just have to want to watch a film enough to disect it & spot them.  |
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Post by Father on Feb 7, 2004 10:12:36 GMT -5
I called Kurt Wimmer and he assured me: it was a hair on the lens... |
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Post by Ooktavia on Feb 7, 2004 13:26:44 GMT -5
A little off topic, but it's sort of "string" related, I promise Has anyone else noticed how all the people in Libria tie their shoes the same way? We see Brandts shoes when he is beating up Preston- tied in a little bow, and we see Preston's shoes at various points during the "Not without incident.".. er incident. And again, snazzy white shoes, snazzy white shoelaces, in a neat little bow. I mean, clerics, cold-hearted ass-whuppin' machines of death- and they tie their laces in a bow. Well, it makes *me* smile. But I'm strange that way.... ;D |
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Post by Father on Feb 7, 2004 13:59:32 GMT -5
A little off topic, but it's sort of "string" related, I promise Has anyone else noticed how all the people in Libria tie their shoes the same way? We see Brandts shoes when he is beating up Preston- tied in a little bow, and we see Preston's shoes at various points during the "Not without incident.".. er incident. And again, snazzy white shoes, snazzy white shoelaces, in a neat little bow. I mean, clerics, cold-hearted ass-whuppin' machines of death- and they tie their laces in a bow. Well, it makes *me* smile. But I'm strange that way.... ;D We have sought to shrug off individuality, replacing it with conformity. Replacing it... with sameness... with unity, allowing each man, woman, and child in this great society to lead identical lives. The concept of identical encironment construction allows each of us to head confidently into each moment with all the secure knowledge it has been lived before. |
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Post by JenGe on Feb 7, 2004 14:55:50 GMT -5
We have sought to shrug off individuality, replacing it with conformity. Replacing it... with sameness... with unity, allowing each man, woman, and child in this great society to lead identical lives. The concept of identical encironment construction allows each of us to head confidently into each moment with all the secure knowledge it has been lived before. That's exactly what I was thinking!! Great minds.... |
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Post by akumabito on Feb 7, 2004 15:59:09 GMT -5
As for those strings..
perhaps they have something do do with the distance they slide? Of course both of the clips would have to land on exactly the right place, so they could've been pulled there by those strings.
Also, because they're tied to the top, they could slide laying down, then, when they let go of the wires, the weight at the bottom would pull the clip up to it's upright position..
Just a theory..
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 7, 2004 16:08:30 GMT -5
Just a shrubbery  |
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Post by Ooktavia on Feb 8, 2004 9:13:47 GMT -5
A shrubbery? It's hard times for an old shrubber like me... I like the idea of them being conformist right down to their shoelaces. The fact that they have bows rather than some dynamic, cool, hard hitting fastenings like velcro that make me smile. I don't precisely know why. Insuffiecent Prozium, doubtless. |
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Post by skippythegator on Feb 8, 2004 9:17:32 GMT -5
I agree with akumabito, it was probably done to control how far the clips would slide.
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Post by Kodanshi on Feb 8, 2004 10:12:38 GMT -5
I agree with akumabito, it was probably done to control how far the clips would slide. I certainly think so! It would probably take a hell of a lot of takes to throw them and have them reach the exact position needed, at the same time, both of them, etc. without some form of control. |
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Post by ClericMike on Feb 8, 2004 13:14:06 GMT -5
Exactly. With the force that Christian used to throw the clips, they would have probably hit the sweepers' boots, defeating the purpose of having the clips there in the first place. That's no biggie, tho. That sequence is still kickass! |
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Post by Kodanshi on Feb 8, 2004 18:21:52 GMT -5
I just love the way Christian almost casually slings those clips to one side without even looking. Absolutely beautiful! |
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Post by pyro on Feb 8, 2004 20:39:50 GMT -5
those strings attached to the clips were part of the movie prodution crew, not preston. in a thread way back some members where talking about it
ill bring back theat obs thread again, good catch about the shoelaces!
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Post by away on Feb 9, 2004 18:50:45 GMT -5
If there really are wires attached to these clips, and I think that there are, the most likely explanation is that the clips were placed in thier final position and then the wires were used to drag them out of the frame. The film would then be reversed in post production and the clips would appear to slide into the frame coming to rest in an upright position. I should be a director like Kurt. |
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Post by MAX on Feb 9, 2004 21:34:11 GMT -5
Lol! We need another DVD commentary... |
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Post by Walldude on Feb 10, 2004 15:05:40 GMT -5
If those are strings (I don't think so) Then Wimmer is lying because he claims in the commentary that there are no wires in the film whatsoever... I'll have to watch again and see how the scene is edited before I post my final theory...
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Post by Kodanshi on Feb 10, 2004 15:23:09 GMT -5
If those are strings (I don't think so) Then Wimmer is lying because he claims in the commentary that there are no wires in the film whatsoever... I thought he claimed no 'wire fu', not no wires altogether! |
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Post by JenGe on Feb 10, 2004 15:24:18 GMT -5
If those are strings (I don't think so) Then Wimmer is lying because he claims in the commentary that there are no wires in the film whatsoever... Actually this is a misunderstanding that people have in what Wimmer was talking about. When he said "wires" he meant "wire-fu" for the action. Wires were used for special effects &/or props in Equilibrium. He says so on one of the commentaries when he talks about the "wires" between the guns & the squibs so that they could be perfectly synchronized. |
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Post by JenGe on Feb 12, 2004 20:31:22 GMT -5
Bumping a broken thread
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