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Post by Sus on Mar 23, 2003 11:04:23 GMT -5
What with all the Matrix/EQ comparisons floating about, I started thinking about why I think John Preston is a cooler character than Neo, and I sat and wrote them down during Biology (this is why I'm going to fail ). Then I made a site. Go and check it out, tell me if you agree, disagree or have more for me to add. www.geocities.com/tochaaswife/reasons
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Post by JenGe on Mar 23, 2003 11:32:54 GMT -5
bahahahahaha!!! That was so funny!! I love these-- - Preston has a BRILLIANT soundtrack. Shame you can't buy it...
- Three words - sweaty torso shot. OH yes.
- Preston uses the same guns all the time. He really cares about his firearms
Great job!!! You keep this up you really will fail biology!! My teens and I had a simular discussion after we saw Equilibrium. Who would win in a fight, Neo or Preston? We decided it would depend on if they were in the Matrix or not. After all Neo is a God there but Preston would beat him without doubt in the real world.
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Post by BMaloney on Mar 23, 2003 14:23:39 GMT -5
Well, my friend is a passionate Matrixer and I'm an insane EQer, I like the matrix he hates EQ because he thinks it's such a ripoff. Preston has been training his whole life in combat for any situation, Neo can only succeed if he has the handicap (i.e. the matrix). Preston anytime. ;D
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Post by Sus on Mar 24, 2003 2:22:54 GMT -5
My teens and I had a simular discussion after we saw Equilibrium. Who would win in a fight, Neo or Preston? We decided it would depend on if they were in the Matrix or not. After all Neo is a God there but Preston would beat him without doubt in the real world. Absolutely. Neo has no real skill, he only bends the Matrix around him. He didn't learn to fight like that, he just wants to and does. There was no work involved for him.
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Post by -mark- on Mar 24, 2003 4:31:20 GMT -5
Now if you put Preston into the Matrix then it may be a whole different story....Neo might have an edge then unless Perston with his intuitive thinking can figure out the matrix very quickly.....but I like both movies and both characters.....they would probably just team up and go after Zion or the resistance or whatever themselves together.
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Post by KiriRomano on Mar 24, 2003 6:18:08 GMT -5
I think that until The Matrix Reloaded comes out I will have to say that Preston is better, more skilled etc. , but the stunt scenes for The Matrix Reladed do look very impressive. I do see what you mean about Preston fighting in the real world and Neo fighting in the Matrix. Preston would whup Neo's ass in the real world and probably in the Matrix as well, seeing as what he can do in the real world then surely he could do even more impressive things in the Matrix. Does anyone know how many of his own stunts Christian Bale did?
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Post by JenGe on Mar 24, 2003 6:18:38 GMT -5
Hey nouse sounds like a fun fan fiction idea.
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Post by JenGe on Mar 24, 2003 6:21:32 GMT -5
Hi KiriRomano & welcome!! I know that Bale did some of his own stunts but as to the exact number I'm not sure.
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Post by Feline on Mar 25, 2003 12:06:23 GMT -5
We'll prolly have to wait for the DVD to see the background stuff about stunts and shooting. I think I'll buy my first DVD when that comes out. Can't wait.. And I can't wait for Matrix Reloaded to get out either.
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Post by KiriRomano on Mar 25, 2003 12:33:29 GMT -5
Now if you put Preston into the Matrix then it may be a whole different story....Neo might have an edge then unless Perston with his intuitive thinking can figure out the matrix very quickly.....but I like both movies and both characters.....they would probably just team up and go after Zion or the resistance or whatever themselves together. I agree with JenGe this would make a very good fic not that I really want to start any more fics right at this point in time, I think that the idea is too good to pass up.
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Post by JimC on Mar 27, 2003 17:41:12 GMT -5
I think the real question is...Keanu Reeves vs. Christian Bale:
1) Keanu Reeves is a complete moron and will fall for all old school fight tricks like "You're shoes are untied" and "Oh my god! Quick look behind you!" 2) Christian Bale is buff. 3) Keanu Reeves is beer belly. 4) Gun Kata is cooler than Ninjitsu. 5) Keanu doesn't really know Martial Arts...Christian Bale does. 6) Christian would crush him faster than the career of Ricki Lake.
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Post by JenGe on Mar 27, 2003 22:29:28 GMT -5
I think the real question is...Keanu Reeves vs. Christian Bale: 6) Christian would crush him faster than the career of Ricki Lake. I have to agree there!! If it was Bale vs Reeves in a battle instead of Neo/Preston there'd be no contest.
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Post by zazu on Mar 28, 2003 23:07:02 GMT -5
Sus, your webpages are a scream. You should have been part of the Hunk Draft at CHUD. Next time they do it, I'll let you know.
Preston would kick Neo's ass, just as Christian Bale does kick Keanu's acting ass.
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Post by BMaloney on Mar 29, 2003 9:58:10 GMT -5
It's the fact that Keanu Reeves CAN'T act, even for the life of him.. Christian Bale on the other hand, well you all know about him.
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Post by JenGe on Mar 29, 2003 13:23:06 GMT -5
Am I the ony one who loved Keanu in A Walk in the Clouds??
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Post by BMaloney on Mar 29, 2003 14:15:42 GMT -5
I think so. Has anyone here seen Laurel Canyon? I saw it under Christian Bale's movie list on IMDb.. I had never heard of it
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Post by JenGe on Mar 29, 2003 14:54:13 GMT -5
Yea, I saw it. Its one of those films that leaves you thinking and not quite sure what it was trying to say. Personally, I love ambiguity but I know that many people don't. Here is a review I wrote for it on one of the CHUD threads.
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Post by JimC on Mar 29, 2003 19:27:32 GMT -5
Ok, Keanu Reeves was good in Speed and Walk in the Clouds....other than that...I thought I was going to puke when I watched his other movies. (especially Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure)
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Post by MANIMAL on Mar 30, 2003 0:32:33 GMT -5
hola todos, this is my first post here, and i was wondering if it was ok if i could use this link www.geocities.com/tochaaswife/reasonsfor my SIG on the matrix forum, im getting tired of those fucks for sending me threats and shit. so now im goign to send them a EQ hello from the MANIMAL, ive been banned twice. enough is enough, they say its a RIP-OFF they can kiss my ass EQ is awesome and no rip off i love the movie and i am a FAN. MANIMAL BY THE WAY PRESTON WOULD WIN.......
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Post by BMaloney on Mar 30, 2003 1:14:35 GMT -5
I don't know what you're getting at, but you must have been making incriminating posts about the Matrix on those forums, as Matrixers are generally friendly though EQ does not go over well. I think using that link would probably just get you banned again..
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Post by MANIMAL on Mar 30, 2003 2:00:01 GMT -5
oh no, i wasnt bashing matrix its just they banned me one time cuz i told some guy he was an idiot for thinking the way he thought and the moderator todl me stuff and edited my post so i just took out his edit and told him to calm down his panties. and now there sending me emails and messages about me chaning some crap on my profile cuz i put that was an undercover moderator, so they getting all hissy fit. so now im goign to go all EQ on them cuz most of them dont like that movie and think its a rip-off. im sure they cant ban me for that now
manimal
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Post by JenGe on Mar 30, 2003 6:42:44 GMT -5
Ok, Keanu Reeves was good in Speed and Walk in the Clouds....other than that...I thought I was going to puke when I watched his other movies. (especially Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure) So, I guess its a good thing that I never saw Bill and Ted then? You know, I did think Keanu was quite good in Devil's Advocate as well. favorite line from that flick...
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Post by JenGe on Mar 30, 2003 6:47:01 GMT -5
Sure Manimal, feel free to use it. I'm curtain that Sus won't mind you pointing more people to her site. If she does I'm sure she'll say something. BTW, welcome - Jen
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Post by JenGe on Mar 30, 2003 7:04:45 GMT -5
Fans are funny creatures. Usually blindly loyal and unreasonable due to their own bias. Often they will defend their passion with crusader-like zeal even under the slightest suggestion at a varying point of view. For them it is a war, an assault to point out other possibilities. Huuummm...wait a second....don't I run a fan site?? Ignore everything I wrote above!!!
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Post by Sus on Mar 30, 2003 16:37:08 GMT -5
Not at all! ;D Please do! I'm flattered that you asked!
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Post by -mark- on Apr 3, 2003 20:38:19 GMT -5
I think I'm getting inspired for a Neo Vs. Preston fan Fic although it would be entirely out of continuity......not sure though it seems like a tough task to take on....too many fans of both......we'll see though....
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Post by Cleric on Apr 3, 2003 22:56:43 GMT -5
A small side note for everyone. If ever some Matrix fanboi (and yes i like the Matrix just as much as EQ) tells you that EQ is nothing but a ripoff of the matrix, you just tell them to go out and rent some anime movies like Ghost in the Shell. Tell them to do some research on where the wachowskis got there inspiration for The Matrix.
HELL the brothers have even said in past interviews that a lot of the ideas have come from japanese based animated movies and mangas. And then there's the fact that all that "wire-fu" in matrix was done by the master of fight scenes, Wu Ping. And that man has done hundreds if not THOUSANDS of fight scenes with high flying action. wow i feel winded after such a long post. *takes a breather*
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Post by MANIMAL on Apr 3, 2003 23:41:02 GMT -5
there been talk about this (well matirx originality). on some matrix forum that i go to. those people are annoying and kinda messed up in the head. i mean really it seems to me they fondle themselves while they watch that movie cuz of the way they talk about it.
MANIMAL
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Post by JenGe on Apr 4, 2003 8:06:04 GMT -5
I think I'm getting inspired for a Neo Vs. Preston fan Fic although it would be entirely out of continuity......not sure though it seems like a tough task to take on....too many fans of both......we'll see though.... I think any surrealistic rendering would be kewl. When you first mentioned the idea I thought, "Now that would be fun." Huuummm...you know you're on to something when you start getting "hate mail."
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Post by JenGe on Apr 4, 2003 8:15:18 GMT -5
A small side note for everyone. If ever some Matrix fanboi (and yes i like the Matrix just as much as EQ) tells you that EQ is nothing but a ripoff of the matrix, you just tell them to go out and rent some anime movies like Ghost in the Shell. Tell them to do some research on where the wachowskis got there inspiration for The Matrix. HELL the brothers have even said in past interviews that a lot of the ideas have come from japanese based animated movies and mangas. And then there's the fact that all that "wire-fu" in matrix was done by the master of fight scenes, Wu Ping. And that man has done hundreds if not THOUSANDS of fight scenes with high flying action. wow i feel winded after such a long post. *takes a breather* I believe the brothers said something to the effect that there are more connections then we'll ever know. Being a Matrix fan myself I would find it actually difficult not to love Equilibrium just as much. Both are fantastic films, similar and yet very different. As a film fan first, before being a Matrix/EQ fan, I realize that cinematic history did not begin OR END with those films. I think blind fans tent to forget this.
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