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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 7, 2004 16:13:43 GMT -5
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Post by JenGe on Feb 7, 2004 16:25:36 GMT -5
Damn!!...& I just moved three of these threads over to the Freedom Reading Room!! ;D **CLICK!!**
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 7, 2004 16:27:30 GMT -5
AWwww WHY???
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Post by JenGe on Feb 7, 2004 16:33:10 GMT -5
AWwww WHY??? Why what...
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 7, 2004 16:59:02 GMT -5
did you move it?
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Post by JenGe on Feb 7, 2004 17:06:06 GMT -5
Because it is a redundant topic. Here are my thoughts as I have stated in other threads. I personally do not think this film needs a 2nd take. I know I would not want it without Wimmer and/or Bale. Blade Runner certainly does not need a second film & I have no confidence that the studio would treat the subject with respect. That being said though, several fan fictions have brought up some interesting ideas for a prequil.
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 8, 2004 6:06:03 GMT -5
But i want EQ 2 !!!!
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 8, 2004 12:05:06 GMT -5
What you want Cleric and what you get are two different things, Ultra Violet is in the making I don't think EQ 2 would add anything. I tend to avoid sequels, there are very few sequels which have captured the feel of the original movie.
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Post by ClericVictor on Feb 8, 2004 18:26:25 GMT -5
There is wisdom in what you speak cleric, and i will say DAMNIT!!! why do you have to be right??? I want EQ2 but since UV is comin out and KW mentioned that he will have something like gun kata (but more sophisticated) then i might aswell w8 for UV, LETS just hope that he will do antother great movie like EQ!!!!! Oh god, bless thy Film Producer that is called Kurt Wimmer, and bless Jen, teh nice lady that has provided us with this Webbie and forum. Amen.
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Post by Drayvn on Feb 8, 2004 18:35:38 GMT -5
my addition will be short, and i just wanna say, i dont think an eq2 is needed, but what i want is wimmer and bale back together again doin the gun kata thing again, but with big budget and lots of good balanced action, with an amazing story to back it up
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Feb 9, 2004 8:15:24 GMT -5
Or maybe another Kurt Wimmer-Christian Bale action film set in the present/modern times.
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Post by mawa on Feb 9, 2004 16:05:34 GMT -5
I have to agree with the others and say, that EQ2 would be a bad idea... the prequel MIGHT work, but the sequel - definitely not! Akimbo's picture from the "Anyone for some Photoshop Phun" thread sums up perfectly what I think about the idea of the sequel. I'm sorry, but I have to repost it here - I just can't resist! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Walldude on Feb 10, 2004 15:09:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't see an EQ2 and I'm sure since the box office was non-existant he would have a hell of a time financing another EQ movie.. in spite of the cult following it has developed..
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Post by baleheadnutcase on Feb 27, 2004 12:56:51 GMT -5
Because it is a redundant topic. Here are my thoughts as I have stated in other threads. I personally do not think this film needs a 2nd take. I know I would not want it without Wimmer and/or Bale. That being said though, several fan fictions have brought up some interesting ideas for a prequil. Say....a prequil...like Star Wars. (yah i wouldn't want it without bale *heart *heart)
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Post by Libby on Feb 27, 2004 13:28:35 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this. It's only natural to want more of something so good. It's a bit like when I read a really wonderful book - I sometimes feel sad it's finished, because I don't want to leave the world that the author created. But there are times when you have to accept that's all there is and move on. For me, it's the same with EQ. There's a corny phrase about 'If it isn't broken, then don't fix it' and I feel it applies somewhat here. EQ is pretty much perfect as it is. Don't forget, Spielberg (sorry Jen, I'll wash my mouth out later! ;D) refused to do an ET sequel and he was right! I don't need a sequel. The film said everything it needed to say. What's left for a sequel? To be honest, for me, JudasFm has caught the mood of a post-EQ world and I prefer her fiction to film. A prequel would be odd to, because it would probably have to focus on Partridge and his journey (and we know where that ended). Preston would just be the cold God of death. OK there would also be some kick-ass Gun Kata, but would that be enough? Not for me. I'm happy with the fiction side. Just mho
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Post by mawa on Feb 28, 2004 9:41:42 GMT -5
A prequel would be odd to, because it would probably have to focus on Partridge and his journey (and we know where that ended). Preston would just be the cold God of death. OK there would also be some kick-ass Gun Kata, but would that be enough? Not for me. I'm happy with the fiction side. Just mho Libby, I think that a prequel might work - making it is extremely risky and challenging, yet not beyond the possibilities of a talented director, scriptwriter (?) and cast. A prequel showing the fall of humanity ( III WW ) and the birth of Librian dictatorship could be awesome. I'm trying to imagine the ending of this movie, showing the triumph of Father and Libria. This would be indeed chilling, especially for those who do not know ( read: who haven't seen EQ ). As for the characters from the original movie - the only one who would fit here is Father. I can't imagine here Preston nor Partridge - let's leave them alone. But what about the Father's character, the members of the Council and so on... - there is so much stuff to play with... This comment might sound as a contradiction towards my previous one. But the idea I mentioned above simply fascinates me. Just MHO
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Post by Libby on Feb 28, 2004 12:42:27 GMT -5
As for the characters from the original movie - the only one who would fit here is Father. I can't imagine here Preston nor Partridge - let's leave them alone. But what about the Father's character, the members of the Council and so on... - there is so much stuff to play with... Just MHO I see where you're going with this, but personally, if it ain't got Preston, it ain't worth seeing. Wouldn't it just be some quasi-philosophical/political yawn?
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Post by MAX on Feb 29, 2004 0:32:55 GMT -5
I agree with you MaWa. Though, as has been mentioned countless times... I think it'd work MUCH better as a novel. But, it'd probably suffer from '1984 syndrome'... Though, there is an EQ book out already: members.picturelist.com/images/rwf/x57k.jpg
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Post by mawa on Feb 29, 2004 7:42:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't it just be some quasi-philosophical/political yawn? I'll put it that way - Equilibrium could have been made so easily into a crappy, sentimental movie without a bit of taste and with some poor, melodramatic acting ( Look! The main character was emotionless killing machine! Now he is feeling! Now he fell in love! Oh, how touching! ). But Wimmer took the risk and made a wonderful, powerful and really touching movie. And the power of EQ lies - and that's a paradox - in restraint. As for the political yawn - I trust that the EQ audience is intelligent enough, so the political rants and preaching can be spared. I see the potential power of this movie in its characters -give me a really intelligent, complex Father's character with a lot of charisma, give me intelligent, distinct Council members with strong motivation and goals. Show me the mechanism which has caused people to willingly give up their emotions in exchange for peace... hey, wait! Was it really their free will or a sophisticated manipulation?! It would be wonderful to find out, what was the backgroud of Libria.
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Post by Libby on Feb 29, 2004 9:06:50 GMT -5
Oh, I don't disagree in principle. it's just that films, by their very nature, tend to skim over certain things if they can't be expressed dramatically - a lot is left to the imagination. Depending on the subject matter, as an intelligent audience, we don't want to be lectured or preached to - we want thoughtful entertainment.
I have no doubt that many of us Equilibrians have our own views on the emergence and formation of Librian society. Still, I think personally I would stick with MAX's view that a novel would be better.
But, hey, differences of opinion are what make discussions fun! ;D
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Post by TrustKill on Mar 4, 2004 14:28:12 GMT -5
i wrote an premise idea for a prequel to EQ on some other thread. i dont think anyone went to it after i wrote it though.
-ill search around.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Mar 5, 2004 8:06:41 GMT -5
I see where you're going with this, but personally, if it ain't got Preston, it ain't worth seeing. Wouldn't it just be some quasi-philosophical/political yawn? I wouldn't watch EQ 2 if there were no Preston in it. You're right about it, Libby.
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Post by Shalakashka on Mar 5, 2004 8:36:24 GMT -5
Pardon my ignorance, but what is Ultra Violet? I can't seem to find any info on it. Is it a Gun-Kata based film? ;D
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Post by TrustKill on Mar 5, 2004 9:03:34 GMT -5
yep...
milla jovovich rocks the house as the carrier of some crazy disease.
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Post by Cleric Queenie on Mar 6, 2004 20:43:03 GMT -5
Um, that's a tough one. Of course I'd love to see a sequel/prequel to EQ! But then I ask myself what if it turns out to be one of those sequels/prequels that shouldn't have been made. So I'd rather have this GEM of a movie than a sequel/prequel that could be a big disappointment. Some movies do have something special about them, that a second one cannot recreate.
I really loved the first part of The Mummy and was looking forward to the second one and I JUST HATED IT in the end. Or imagine Gladiator II ? No thanks! Or the Matrix - I really love the trilogy, but for me the first part is still the best.
If it was as spell binding as the first one, of course I wouldn't say no. But I don't want a cheap continuation that is just made to cash in.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Mar 7, 2004 2:20:24 GMT -5
The original/first one is always the best as they say.
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Post by NateP on Mar 13, 2004 13:25:21 GMT -5
EQ is, by itself, an excellent film! Seeing a sequel could damage the following it has gained, by making a film solely for the mass' enjoyment. Some sequels have been made really well, but I think that ideas for a sequel should live in the homes of our minds and on this Forum. Running the risk of seeing a poorly made 2nd film, outweighs the possiblity of seeing an awesome sequel, and besides, by discussing possibilities for a 2nd film and seeing what everyone would like to see is fun in itself. But this is all my humble opinion. ;D
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Post by Libby on Mar 13, 2004 15:26:17 GMT -5
EQ is, by itself, an excellent film! Seeing a sequel could damage the following it has gained, by making a film solely for the mass' enjoyment. Some sequels have been made really well, but I think that ideas for a sequel should live in the homes of our minds and on this Forum. Running the risk of seeing a poorly made 2nd film, outweighs the possiblity of seeing an awesome sequel, and besides, by discussing possibilities for a 2nd film and seeing what everyone would like to see is fun in itself. But this is all my humble opinion. ;D In the words of poor old Sam Wheat in 'Ghost' (Heaven forbid but I loved this film) Ditto
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Post by CZCleric87 on Apr 10, 2004 15:01:27 GMT -5
I don't think they should make a sequel because - 1. The story is pretty much over @ the end of EQ. Unless they make a twist and show a band of officers going into hiding and then kidnapping people and pumping them with some left over Prozium that wasn't destroyed. Plus, if they make one, they'll probably re-cast Preston and everyone and it might go straight-to-video, which would suck. But, if they do make a sequel, I would hope that they would re-release EQ.
As for a prequel, I think it could possibly work, but it would have to be done perfectly well. I just don't know what they could really talk about in it. They could possibly have the story of the development of Prozium and DuPont's rise and how the real Father died.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Apr 11, 2004 10:09:28 GMT -5
I'm also open about the idea of a EQ prequel . Maybe, it will work, who knows? But a sequel....hmmmm.....I don't know. They should have a good story line for it to make it work, not suck.
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