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Post by EquilibriumGal on Oct 6, 2003 21:06:04 GMT -5
I don't want to give away any of the movie Underworld, but for all the people that have seen it and Equilibrium, then you know what I'm talking about. The makers of Underworld totally ripped off the best part of Equilibrium! I'm upset about it, as all other Equilibrium fans should be too. Reply to this if you know what I mean. Thanx!
GRRR.. Underworld... Pshhh..
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Post by ClericMike on Oct 6, 2003 21:26:31 GMT -5
I kno wexactly what you're talking about. Underworld tossed salad. It was the most dissapointing movie ever. It's even worse than A Walk in the Clouds. And yes, other than some super-cool flashy bullet time effects they did completely rip off one of the coolest parts of Equilibrium. HAHAHAHAHA. Another one of Hollywood's attempts to win back lost fans with shallow movies.
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Post by swingkid on Oct 7, 2003 0:55:47 GMT -5
What parts of EQ? I want to know  |
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Post by Coolhand on Oct 7, 2003 3:12:53 GMT -5
I don't want to give away any of the movie Underworld, but for all the people that have seen it and Equilibrium, then you know what I'm talking about. The makers of Underworld totally ripped off the best part of Equilibrium! I'm upset about it, as all other Equilibrium fans should be too. Reply to this if you know what I mean. Thanx! GRRR.. Underworld... Pshhh.. Sorry guys, but I beg to differ on this one. I don't think Underworld is an EQ rip off in any way. I guess the main thing you're thinking of is.. SPOILERS!!! ...the face slice, right? I agree it's the same idea as used by Kurt to finish Brandt, but it's not like EQ invented that. I've seen that whole "not realising you're sliced until bits fall off" used in Manga movies and other films long before EQ took the face off Taye. Besides, if I remember correctly, Underworld was already in production when EQ screened, meaning that they didn't have time to see it and think "Yep. We'll be having us some of that thar face-slicin' Hur Hur." I think it's just co-incidence. I actualy really liked Underworld, so I may be biased, but I don't think you can call it a rip off on the grounds of one Death-Gag. It's like called EQ a Matrix rip off because both movies use double handguns, y'know? Just my two cents on the matter. |
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Post by JenGe on Oct 7, 2003 3:14:56 GMT -5
Huuummm...there must be something really wrong with me because I loved both Underworld & A Walk in the Clouds. Since Wimmer himself used so much from other films & sources in EQ I'd hardly consider what Underworld did really a ripoff.
Also this was Len Wiseman's first film as Equilibrium was Kurt Wimmer's. I think that both will turn out to be excellent filmmakers (of course though I already think Wimmer is far superior to most who currently helm films anyway.)
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Post by ClericRyan on Oct 7, 2003 8:04:28 GMT -5
I dont think it was a rip off at all, and in fact, the face spliting thing was done befopre EQ, remember Resident Evil, and the lazer room ?!
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Post by Darkside Cleric on Oct 7, 2003 10:56:14 GMT -5
Underworld was on a completely different parallel than EQ... well, that's what I believe. Yes, there was one action sequence that was the same, but I mean.. I've seen that in underworld, resident evil, ghost ship and EQ... and it's been done a zillion times before...
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Post by ClericRyan on Oct 7, 2003 13:39:53 GMT -5
Underworld was on a completely different parallel than EQ... well, that's what I believe. Yes, there was one action sequence that was the same, but I mean.. I've seen that in underworld, resident evil, ghost ship and EQ... and it's been done a zillion times before... thats what Im saying, forgot about gost ship, that scene was brutal... |
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Post by ClericMike on Oct 7, 2003 16:05:07 GMT -5
thats what Im saying, forgot about gost ship, that scene was brutal... Which part of Ghost Ship? I haven't seen it in a while. Oh BTW- Great points by all you guys. I wont turn my back on saying Underworld sucked though. The story was great, albeit predictable, and the fights and some of the acting was under par. Personally, I won't be able to compare Underworld with any other movie until Ultraviolet comes out. That's the only othe rmovie I can think of off hand where vampires are the protagonists. |
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Post by Mia on Oct 7, 2003 16:41:53 GMT -5
As far as I'm aware it was Resident Evil that did the face slicing first. Although EQ's face slicing was pretty cool ;D Not seen Underworld yet but I might just watch it for Kate Beckinsale in tight pvc... heh  |
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Post by Coolhand on Oct 8, 2003 8:00:25 GMT -5
I think it's the WAY that EQ uses the face slice that makes it stand out for me. In other movies it's just a gory death in itself with no higher purpose, but in EQ it's not really done to shock or gross out the audience, more to show how utterly and compleatly Preston had slammed Brandt into the afterlife. And then Preston looks at DuPoint as if to say: "Would you like some of that?" ;D The face slice has intergrity man.  |
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Post by ClericRyan on Oct 8, 2003 8:21:16 GMT -5
I think it's the WAY that EQ uses the face slice that makes it stand out for me. In other movies it's just a gory death in itself with no higher purpose, but in EQ it's not really done to shock or gross out the audience, more to show how utterly and compleatly Preston had slammed Brandt into the afterlife. And then Preston looks at DuPoint as if to say: "Would you like some of that?" ;D The face slice has intergrity man. True, and if you look at my homeboys face afterwards, he really shows how he felt about the face being sliced off, but notice he is not scared, as he still thinks his gun kata skills are a match for Preston |
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Post by Sathanai Kiyohira on Oct 9, 2003 1:12:25 GMT -5
Some very good points... just want to add my voice - i don't consider Underworld to be an EQ rip-off at all, and i actually loved the movie... It could, undeniably, have been a lot better, but i enjoyed it enough to forgive its shortcomings Ooh, and while we're on the subject of things reoccurring in different movies, anyone notice a similarity between Hero stopping a volley of magic missiles in a man called hero and Neo's bullet-stopping trick in Matrix? It's almost exactly the same. Mayhap the Wachoskis had seen the aforementioned piece of Chinese cinema? (i have to say Neo does it much, much cooler, though ;D ) |
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Post by MisterAnderson on Oct 9, 2003 1:22:12 GMT -5
Everybody steals ideas from somewhere. Its the nature of Hollywood.
Kurt even admits to doing this (about the Resistance phone call scene) in the commentary.
EQ is hardly a totally original body of work, its just better executed than a lot of other films that do the same.
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Post by Grave on Oct 10, 2003 16:49:46 GMT -5
i say Underworld is Blade rip off from the buttom to head.
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Post by Darkside Cleric on Oct 14, 2003 14:27:13 GMT -5
i say Underworld is Blade rip off from the buttom to head. not nessesarily. The plot of blade was to KILL the vampires. The Plot of underworld was to ensure the survival of the Vampires over the Lycans. Sure, both of them are based on a war, but the war in Underworld is of a greater scale. And in Blade, the vampire was a purebred daywalker, it seems that Celine from Underworld is like the vampires that blade fights against, allergic to sunlight AKA UV rays. |
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Post by Grave on Nov 19, 2003 11:04:14 GMT -5
not nessesarily. The plot of blade was to KILL the vampires. The Plot of underworld was to ensure the survival of the Vampires over the Lycans. Sure, both of them are based on a war, but the war in Underworld is of a greater scale. And in Blade, the vampire was a purebred daywalker, it seems that Celine from Underworld is like the vampires that blade fights against, allergic to sunlight AKA UV rays. yea thats true, but borh is too gothic if you know what i mean, like everyone is in black lather and trenchcoats and stuff like that, but its true what you said. |
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Post by Rip on Nov 25, 2003 9:46:38 GMT -5
True, and if you look at my homeboys face afterwards, he really shows how he felt about the face being sliced off, but notice he is not scared, as he still thinks his gun kata skills are a match for Preston He has the look of a man who seriously underestimated a man he thought he had prepared for. |
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Post by -mark- on Nov 26, 2003 18:14:51 GMT -5
When the scene u refered to happened it was so funny casue my freind and I just looked at each other and we were like fucking Equilibrium rip off right away. haha nice others noticed
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Nov 27, 2003 6:50:52 GMT -5
Actually, it's been said before, but I'll say it again.
You can probably thank movies like Ghost Ship and Resident Evil for the slicing person's head, face, body parts off.
It's not an EQ specific thing, it's been going on in Movies for some years prior and in my first book, one of the major villains cuts someone's face off to prove a point.
He also did it in the AD&D game I was running, 1st Edition AD&D I add.
So the concept's not new, nor is it exclusive of EQ, so it's actually not a rip off.
It happens to be done with much more style and panache in EQ however, and the single drop of blood at the end is what makes it. That blade must have been hellishly sharp.
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