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Post by mawa on Jun 16, 2004 17:44:29 GMT -5
Father's Speech ( There is a disease in the hearts of men... )
There is a disease in the hearts of men The cause of war that led us here The cause of death that we can smell
Behold this desolated land The place that we called home
There isn't anything left to burn anymore
But there is a cure that can bring us hope For peace and the final end of wars
It'll give you freedom from your nightmares It'll give you freedom from your fears It'll give you freedom from emotions The ones that force to kill
It'll give you freedom From being free
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Post by MAX on Jun 17, 2004 4:17:15 GMT -5
Nice one MaWa!
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Jun 17, 2004 9:01:33 GMT -5
Very moving poem, MaWa. More of this, please?
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Post by Libby on Jun 17, 2004 16:45:45 GMT -5
Thought provoking. I like the final line. ;D
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Post by mawa on Jun 18, 2004 4:27:51 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Very moving poem, MaWa. More of this, please? Ona, since there are already five "Preston-off-the-dose" poems of mine, I don't want to flood the boards with my poetry anymore ;D I think that I'll open a separate webpage when I gather more of this fan poetry and put all the stuff there.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Jun 18, 2004 8:56:08 GMT -5
WOW!!!We all be waiting for that.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jun 21, 2004 7:13:15 GMT -5
Nifty, nice and emotive there MaWa.
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Post by mawa on Jun 21, 2004 13:36:28 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf!
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Post by Sontin-JudasFm on Jun 22, 2004 7:06:57 GMT -5
This is really good; I think the last line just sums up the whole movie nicely
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Post by mawa on Jun 22, 2004 8:03:25 GMT -5
Thanks, Judas!
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jun 22, 2004 18:20:40 GMT -5
Groovy stuff, MaWa! Very faithful to the tone of Fathers speeches from the movie.
Hey who is that in your avatar now? Is it Elric from Melnibone? It kinda looks like him from memory....
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Post by mawa on Jun 23, 2004 4:18:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Mr A. As for the avatar - I must admit I don't know. This guy somewhat resembles the main character from my own ( still unfinished - and I don't think it'll be ever finished ) novel... This picture is taken from www.avatary.cad.pl - there are LOADS of various avatars. Take a look especially at "Fantasy" category
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Post by Sontin-JudasFm on Jun 23, 2004 5:01:54 GMT -5
This picture is taken from www.avatary.cad.pl - there are LOADS of various avatars. Take a look especially at "Fantasy" category Ooh...me likee LOL! Not that I can understand any of what's being said, but the pictures are nice
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jun 23, 2004 18:03:27 GMT -5
As for the avatar - I must admit I don't know. This guy somewhat resembles the main character from my own ( still unfinished - and I don't think it'll be ever finished ) novel... Actually I just googled Elric & the first link it came up with has that very picture. www.stormbringer.net/elric.htmlYou should try and get your hands on these books MaWa...I read them years ago & they are very entertaining if you are into fantasy novels. Elric & his black runeblade "Stormbringer" are pretty cool. The sword drinks the souls of its victims.
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Post by mawa on Jun 23, 2004 18:55:36 GMT -5
Damn, Mr A, you were right!! This is the very same character! I just took a look at this picture: www.stormbringer.net/images/elric/elric_wolf_s.gif As for the books. I like fantasy genre, so I'll check those books out as soon as I'll be after my last exam, which I have in 5 days. Thanks for the tip
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jun 23, 2004 22:52:43 GMT -5
Damn, Mr A, you were right!! This is the very same character! I just took a look at this picture: www.stormbringer.net/images/elric/elric_wolf_s.gif As for the books. I like fantasy genre, so I'll check those books out as soon as I'll be after my last exam, which I have in 5 days. Thanks for the tip No probs, MaWa! Make sure that you do check them out....I'm sure they will be right up your alley. Michael Moorcock is the author to look for in case you didn't see it in the link, too.
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Post by Libby on Jun 24, 2004 4:48:04 GMT -5
Michael Moorcock was instrumental in developing my love of Fantasy. In fact, I was talking to Wolf about these only the other week...I got a bit disillusioned with the derivative stuff churned out in the 90s...but MM has remained true to worlds he created...his multiverse. I adore Stormbringer, the Runestaff series, indeed anything with Elric - his Eternal Champion - ...Jewel in the Skull being an all time fav.
Jerry Cornelius is just one of the most intriguing characters ever and then there's and Count Brass...MM's so prolific yet his work retains its quality..
Ooops! Little wander off topic there...can't remember who the main illustrator was for Elric...will have to dig out my very dog-eared copy... ;D
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Post by mawa on Jun 24, 2004 5:37:48 GMT -5
Libby, it happens that I've read Runestaff series. As far as I found "The Jewel in the Skull" very interesting - especially the vision of the evil empire, The Granbretan ( The Great Britain - hm, interesting ;D ). I also liked two characters, as they were quite developed - I speak here about d'Averc and baron Meliadus. But the other books... well, I think they were readable, but a bit weak. You know - Dorian kicks some major ass, has three super cool artifacts - and at the end with a small group of companions he puts the end to this empire. Hey, I know there was a civil war, but c'mon... Even fantasy books require some probability. I'll take a look at those Elric books - I read the description on this site, linked by Mr A and thought, that Elric seems to be an interesting character ;D As for my fave fantasy books ( besides LOTR ): I love Donaldsons' "Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever" - the main character is perhaps the most memorable and complex one among the others I stumbled across. I also love Le Guin's Earthsea series. And I also have to say that I enjoyed pretty much Edding's "The Belgariad" and the Tamuli saga. I love those characters - and this sense of humor ;D ;D I also like Sapkowski's books ( both the short stories and the saga ) about wiedzmin ( can't find the accurate equivalent for this word ) Geralt. They were made into a movie, which really sucked - but the books are great. This writer is very popular in Poland, but I don't know whether he is known abroad. Here's some piece of info: www.culture.pl/en/culture/artykuly/os_sapkowski_andrzejSorry, I couldn't find any more decent English recources. That would be all, I think - I've read more from fantasy genre, but I forgot the majority of those books. And I don't want to mention Andre Norton *shame* - I've read maybe two books written by her and that was all I could bear.
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Post by Libby on Jun 24, 2004 7:14:40 GMT -5
Tbh, I never got past the first of Donaldson's Thomas..books - Lord Foul's Bane - 'cos I found it really depressing. Mind you, that was about 15 years ago so...
I haven't read the latest Elric books yet...*must put on list*
I think I like MM partly because he's a Brit and therefore offers 'alternate' Britains in his stories. Writing that reminds me of Philip Pullman and the 'His Dark Materials' trilogy, which is set in an 'alternate' Oxford.
I agree with you about Ursula Le Guin...Eathsea is fantastic. It's another (like Pullman) of those gems supposedly written for chillden which strikes chord with all ages. Ged is a kind of eponymous hero, and the philosophy of death is comforting...
I don't know the other authors you refer to, but I'll look at the link ;D
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Post by mawa on Jun 24, 2004 7:31:54 GMT -5
Tbh, I never got past the first of Donaldson's Thomas..books - Lord Foul's Bane - 'cos I found it really depressing. Mind you, that was about 15 years ago so... Yes, they ARE depressing. They were the darkest books of this genre which I've ever read ( I read it about 7 years ago - when I was 15 ). Believe me, they weren't easy-reading books for me. Nevertheless, it's a terrific piece of literary work. I hated Thomas, yet I had to admit this character was really complex and well developed. I really appreciated "Chronicles", so I've even written about them at my high-school final exam. ( The topic was something like "The books that had the deepest impact on you" )
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Post by mawa on Jun 28, 2004 17:42:55 GMT -5
I told, that "Father's Speech" is the last poem I'll put on these boards. But Wolf's poetry has inspired me and something deep inside me told me to carry on and write this.World Without War
I've been told there will be no wars anymore As soon as emotions will be foregone. The yellow cure that we dose everyday Should release us from hatred, anger and pain.
So why do I have to kill those who don't believe That Prozium is the cure that will bring us relief?
Emotions bring death, that's what I've been told. These are only perfect, who remain cold. Yet it is I who wages war In world without murder.
The peace is gone, this word has faded away From my understanding - I was led astray. The eyes of my victims are looking at me I hear their voices telling me to join in.
My world which longs for peace is doomed, Drowned in a liquid, trapped in its rules. I am the witness of its demise.
I am the last one who has survived.
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Jun 29, 2004 9:21:30 GMT -5
Oh, MaWa, that was thought-provoking and beautiful poem.
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Post by Sontin-JudasFm on Jun 29, 2004 15:35:39 GMT -5
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Post by mawa on Jun 29, 2004 15:41:41 GMT -5
Thanks, guys!
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jun 29, 2004 17:53:17 GMT -5
Good stuff there MaWa, glad that I could be an ispiration.
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Post by mawa on Jun 30, 2004 8:17:30 GMT -5
The pleasure is mine, Wolf. To be more specific I'll say that I was inspired by the following lines quoted below: From Breath of FireThe pages of the book I read, as I flipped in cold and dread, gave to me an insight great, about our society devoid of hate.and from CarouselMy life is a Carousel. I am the Angel of Death in a world with no Angels, A pitch-dark weapon of calculating effect.
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My life is a Carousel. I pitch and turn with a staccato beat, A flash of enlightenment and the enemy falls.
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I am the wheel of Father's will. A Cleric of the Tetragrammaton. The last line of defence.I just wondered how come, in "world devoid of hate", such things as "weapon", "enemy" and "last line of defence" can exist. And I came up with World Without War
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jun 30, 2004 8:50:03 GMT -5
You see to me, EQ is a movie about double standards.
There is no war, no murder...
Yet that's what the Grammaton Clerics and Sweepers do, they remove threats to the balance of Libria, by the very means that Prozium attempts to counter.
It makes it such an emotional ride for the viewer I think.
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Post by mawa on Jun 30, 2004 9:08:53 GMT -5
Peace for those, who obey - war for those, who resist.
That's the way it is.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Jun 30, 2004 9:29:02 GMT -5
Bingo
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Jun 30, 2004 12:04:15 GMT -5
Peace for those, who obey - war for those, who resist. That's the way it is. Well put, MaWa.
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