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Post by trogdor on Sept 21, 2007 20:08:17 GMT -5
Im not sure if this has been discused before but i was wondering if anyone has a theory of the side sffects that prozium would have on "the masses"? Bulk doses of any mind altering drug would have to cause some reaction and this could explain why some of the sweepers ect. seam so unwilling to act against Preston and how they are so predictable in combat.
Just a thought.
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Post by Aedh on Sept 21, 2007 21:39:04 GMT -5
That's an interesting thought. Of course, years of training and indoctrination to obey their superiors ( = Grammaton Clerics) might also cause Sweepers pause when a Cleric appears to be acting 'out of order.' Remember that Sweepers don't have to be elite SWAT-style officers, since in the line of duty they mostly face either obedient, dosed citizens ... or irrational, emotionally-diseased Sense-Offenders.
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Post by aikidoal on Sept 24, 2007 9:47:40 GMT -5
There is that deer in the headlights confusion all around in the film when confronted with anything that is non-routine. Sort of like a cow looking at a new fence. It runs right from that doubletake "wha" from Preston when asked about his feelings by DuPont, right down to the onlookers when Brandt kicks Preston when he's down.
My take is that it's the drug simply reinforcing the society. Every day is procedures, routine, obedience, routine procedures, procedural routines, procedural obediance, routine obediance, obediant routine, obediant procedures, etc, etc, you get the drift. All that in itself can be dulling without a drug. Think of every time you're in a long line at the grocery store. Add to that some sort of drug and you'll be going "MOoooooo" in no time.
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Post by reosan on Sept 25, 2007 15:43:55 GMT -5
And don't forget the drone of Father's voice in the background in so many public places, keeping the masses calm. Also the "order of things", like the desktops, all the same....
All meant to subdue & control. So anything out of the ordinary (and I mean ordinary) is viewed with disbelief & shock, but in a drugged out way, so it shows as slow response.
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Post by trogdor on Oct 1, 2007 15:15:09 GMT -5
Wow .. Thanks for the great comments and giving me some new ideas ...
Please keep them comming
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Post by Aedh on Dec 5, 2007 11:36:28 GMT -5
My other thought on this is, that Prozium may help people stay "down" from emotional highs (which is part of what it does) by acting on some of the physical functions. Emotional highs carry some of the same physiological reactions as stress; elevated heartrate function, quicker breathing, release of certain substances into the system such as adrenaline, etc. So when a stress-situation comes along, like a Cleric deciding to go all Anglo-Saxon on your ass, your dose may actually somewhat inhibit your body's ability to react quickly.
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Post by trogdor on Dec 19, 2007 21:06:28 GMT -5
That would seam to make sense Aedh since sedating the body as well as the mid would make it easier for the leading authorities to break the will of all those under them and lord it over them ruthlessly ... Denying the people the will or energy to pursue something out of the normal or against the law would also help maintain "order" and would give a very apparent sign to the onlookers that someone has stopped dosing if they run or jump or exert themselves (everyone apart from john seamed to walk in very slow deliberate measured steps almost like it was a great effort just to lift their feet)
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Post by Gypsiebelle on Sept 4, 2008 11:50:41 GMT -5
Here's a thought in regards to prozium in EQ that I read on the IMDB site. Instead of blanketing the entire civilisation in a tranquilizing- numbing drug that stops every and all of the emotions in someone. Since war is caused by certain feelings and emotions, then why not just give them a substance that centers on the happy centers of the brain and keeps everyone in a happy feel-good type state, instead of in a numbed-up state that keeps them from feeling anything?
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Post by kingofsorrow on Sept 7, 2008 2:43:41 GMT -5
probably because a civilisation of "happy" people would be unproductive. all they would want to do is sit around and be "content".
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Post by Aedh on Sept 7, 2008 13:25:08 GMT -5
probably because a civilisation of "happy" people would be unproductive. all they would want to do is sit around and be "content". Well, you've certainly described the aspirations of most people in the Western world nowadays, KOS. |
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Post by Gypsiebelle on Sept 8, 2008 14:17:43 GMT -5
probably because a civilisation of "happy" people would be unproductive. all they would want to do is sit around and be "content". Well, you've certainly described the aspirations of most people in the Western world nowadays, KOS. If I had my druthers, I think that I'd much rather be happy and content than a mindless drone. However, that's just my take on the whole thing.  |
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Post by Aedh on Sept 8, 2008 15:10:59 GMT -5
Being a mindless drone rocks.  It's easy, too. Just believe everything those nice people on TV tell you ... that's right ... just like that.
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Post by Aedh on Mar 11, 2012 6:35:30 GMT -5
I hereby resurrect this thread as still being noteworthy.
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