Cleric Furion
Resistance Member
"Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams...
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Post by Cleric Furion on Feb 26, 2007 13:00:52 GMT -5
This is just a general idea of the game suggestion read it and give feedback! Feel free to make any changes to it to suit your needs / opinions Someone should make a brand new MMORPG (Massive Multiplayer Online Rollplaying Game) The game should be called Equilibrium Online. Someone can design an mmorpg game like this, just like the other mmorpg games, you will be able to play official, and then have some free shards running, like WOW, UO, etc How it works: When u start the game, u choose whether u want to be resistance (feels human emotion) or librian (doesn’t feel human emotion) And just like any other mmorpg you can collect items, skills, etc and you can rank your character up, for example, the highest rank of the librians is the grammeton cleric, just like in the movie and u rank as ure skills get higher, and as u get more experience etc. for resistance you can make up the rank levels etc, because in the movie it deosnt have different levels for the resistance. then you have times when the resistance all get together and attack libria (town of non feeling human beings) and the librians have to fight back, if u watch the movie, the grammeton has a whole lot of gun kata's which means he can shoot into maximum area's very quickly, its hard to understand. so the resistance can even sneak around libria town killing random librians but the citizen (first rank, when starting game) can call the police who will come to their aid, and if neccesary they call in the grammeton clerics online who are the elite force that will handle the situation so to speak just like any other mmorpg game, im sure the shards would need game masters to run them, so then we can appoint certain dedicated players as game masters. items such as weapons, clothing, etc can all be baught from various vendors in libria/<the resistances town is refered to as "the underground" in the movie, so items can be baught from libria or the underground. once u reach grammeton cleric lvl (which should be very hard to get to as in the movie they study and train for years and years before they are good enough) once they reach this rank, they are appointed with 2 firearms. they are black sidearms, which have the name of the cleric on the bottom of the handle, and they are basically 9mm baretta's with extended barrels, and a right angled triangle type thing on the front, please search google, or watch the movie to see how the gun looks. it is only meant for the elite unit known as grammeton cleric, NO ONE ELSE. others get normal firearms. a librian may choose to stop taking their prosium (and start feeling human emotion again) but the minute someone detects it (make it possible for people to see somehow) the police will be called upon that person and they will handle the matter by killing him on site, and bannishing him from libria, he will then become part of the resistance and fight againste the librians. and the same go's for a risistance character that wishes to join libria. there are also other towns, it can be a whole world, but the main to towns are "the underground" (which is the town for the resistance) and Libria (which is the town for the players who wish to become librians, and not feel human emotion) then other towns can be refered to as "netherlands" which are towns that librians and resistance are allowed in, which is where they can randomly fight eachother. im sure this game would get MANY MANY players. and it looks like a great game to play, please take it into consideration we really need some modern MMORPG games out there, all the mmorpg games ive played are either way to futuristic or midevil. me, and im sure many many other people are getting bored of that, so bring out this game - obviously first run a survey or something around the world, to see how many like the idea and how many would play etc, obviously this is just the basic structure of the game, i advise you guys to watch the movie, and i leave it up to you to make the finishing changes and make it an enjoyable game for all, please get back to me about it and let me know whats happening AND FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS AND THINGS U WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ABOUT THE GAME thanks so much Cleric Furion  South Africa satara@webmail.co.za |
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Post by Aedh on Feb 26, 2007 14:01:05 GMT -5
*raise eyebrow* Is this something you plan on putting together? If so, I wish you--very sincerely--all the best. I personally avoid games like that, though I study them with interest.
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Post by JenGe on Feb 26, 2007 16:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 26, 2007 16:53:09 GMT -5
Sorry Cleric Furion, as a member of the game industry I can tell you that if there was going to be an EQ MMORPG, it would have happened by now just like Matrix Online and we all know how that turned out.
The rights to EQ belong to the copyright holders, without their consent an EQ MMORPG is dead in the water before it even starts.
Unless you want to be sued and don't think just because you're a small fish in a big pond, that they can't sue you - because trust me, they can and usually do.
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Post by MisterAnderson on Feb 26, 2007 17:55:22 GMT -5
I think someone is a little overexcited after watching Equilibrium.
This bit made me laugh out loud.
[sarcasm]
Sure...is there anything else you'd like? Comfy pillow? Cup of coffee? Foot massage?
[/sarcasm]
People who come along and make demands like this are never taken seriously & often fade back into the obscurity from whence they came.
Its like me walking into your house as a total stanger and asking you to cook me and my 20 mates a 7 course banquet. Would you do it? I don't think so.
You don't just walk into a forum and start making demands of the members. If we'd wanted to do something like this we would have by now....theres a reason we didn't....because it would never get made.
Honestly - take a deep breath, and have a good hard think about what you are going to post BEFORE you post it. You'll save everyone here & yourself a lot of headaches.
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Post by Aedh on Feb 27, 2007 1:13:40 GMT -5
*lowers eyebrow* Well-said ... I knew I had good reason to mind my p's and q's around here.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Feb 28, 2007 5:25:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I was laughing quite hard after that little advice Mr. Anderson...
Watch the movie, hahaha!
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Post by arbitterm on Mar 1, 2007 15:09:11 GMT -5
Given the fact that this board site isnt exactlyteeming with life these days, I feel you guys handled this poorly. He'sjust a guy with with an idea and wants feedback. Driving him away isn't going to solve anything, and it sure as hell isn't going to attrct people to this site. This thread is on top and the first one guests are gonna read. They aren't going to be thinking of sharing thier ideas if all they're gonna get is ridicule. I agree, his idea is dead in the water due to many restrictions and the sheer pain in the ass of making an online game, but there are two ways to tell someone. I like the idea and if it were done, I'd play, but it isn't likely to happen. As a matter of fact, there's not a snowballs chance in hell unless someone with a lot of time and even more money decideds to put togrther a team and make it privately.
To the rest of you...you should be ashamed of yourself. I thought the peopleon this board had a bit more integrity. You guys seem intent on proving me wrong.
A note to Cleric Furion: spell right if you want any respect from these guys. You have mine for having an original thought and trying to share it. Kudos!
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Mar 1, 2007 16:57:11 GMT -5
As one of my contacts in the industry said, re: an EQ MMO. Kudos to anyone that could pull it off, but it would have to be done by a full team of professionals and with complete backing from all the copyright owners or I get called in.
He's in charge of dealing with copyright infringement in the Entertainment Gaming Industry and spends his time looking for things just like this.
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Post by MisterAnderson on Mar 1, 2007 18:45:31 GMT -5
Given the fact that this board site isnt exactlyteeming with life these days, I feel you guys handled this poorly. He'sjust a guy with with an idea and wants feedback. Driving him away isn't going to solve anything, and it sure as hell isn't going to attrct people to this site. This thread is on top and the first one guests are gonna read. They aren't going to be thinking of sharing thier ideas if all they're gonna get is ridicule. I agree, his idea is dead in the water due to many restrictions and the sheer pain in the ass of making an online game, but there are two ways to tell someone. I like the idea and if it were done, I'd play, but it isn't likely to happen. As a matter of fact, there's not a snowballs chance in hell unless someone with a lot of time and even more money decideds to put togrther a team and make it privately. To the rest of you...you should be ashamed of yourself. I thought the peopleon this board had a bit more integrity. You guys seem intent on proving me wrong. A note to Cleric Furion: spell right if you want any respect from these guys. You have mine for having an original thought and trying to share it. Kudos! I have no issues with people sharing their ideas, in fact I welcome them with open arms. Its when these new members in their first couple of posts say something like "hey this is my big idea, now go off and make it and get back to me with your progress!" - thats when I feel the need to speak up. His/her post was fine up until this point. His/her opening salvo of thread spam also upset the owner of this site, which is never a good thing to do. Jen's a pretty reasonable & fair moderator of this site, so if you set her off its usually with good reason. My post has obviously come across as harsh, but I prefer to think of it as "tough love"...it was certainly intended that way. I certainly didn't say he/she wasn't welcome here & didn't issue any warnings. But I think in the long run I will save him/her some grief. Its when people start making demands in their first couple of posts that I take issue with. Its quite disrespectful. And if you don't say something to these people there & then, they'll just keep on doing it...so its best to be up front with them ASAP. But I saw no issues when it came to the spelling in the original post. On the contrary, its a million times better than the average gamers ramble - good sentence structure & use of grammar fullstops, commas, etc. And I had no troubles reading it. The only thing I can think you may be refering to is that he/she became a little lazy with capitals at the start of the sentences. I didn't mind that at all. Bottom line is this: I respect those that show respect, and while Cleric Furion may not have understood that then - he/she does now. And hopefully so will anyone else who reads this post. And he/she is certainly welcome to post freely here. Excitement, enthusiasm & ideas from new people are great....bring them on. But leave the "demands" outside - they have no place here. Show common courtesy & you will get it back in spades - we are a nice bunch here, and we like it that way. |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Mar 2, 2007 4:58:37 GMT -5
I knew there was a reason I liked you Mr. Anderson  |
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Post by arbitterm on Mar 2, 2007 9:53:41 GMT -5
I don't think he was making demands, he just didn't know how to say that he wanted to critique his idea and make any changes you think would be necessary. I agree, someone who just shows up and expects things done is...annoying. But I don't think that was furion's intent at all.
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Post by Aedh on Mar 2, 2007 15:22:06 GMT -5
My own approach is to give all new ideas--no matter how outlandish-sounding--a polite hearing. (The last time I gave a new idea a rude hearing was in 1979, when an excited friend told me about a project "that would enable computers to talk to each other." I believe he's a billionaire now.)
If the idea sounds plausible, I encourage the person to work up a demonstration or feasibility study. If that evinces possibilities, I steal promote the idea and see about hooking up with someone who can develop it. I may even arrange financing if the developer likes it. (If only I had had the evilness to actually steal the ideas ... I'd probably be Aedh Industries Holdings Ltd with listings on the NYSE and TSX, rather than a comfortable bum.)
In this case, the idea was obviously implausible. But you never know ... history is full of THE most implausible things becoming not only reality, but eventually taken for granted by everyone.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Mar 3, 2007 5:38:18 GMT -5
The idea can only become a reality in this case without legal action, if the persons that got involved sought the cooperation of the copyright holders. Otherwise it would be 'Foxed' in a heartbeat.
However telling a board based on EQ that they need to watch the movie, is like taking Coals to Newcastle. As for being ashamed, no, I will never be ashamed about speaking my mind especially in cases like this where I've seen people sued over daring to breathe about an idea that involves someone elses' Intellectual Property.
I do repeat, if Furion actually got this off the ground or someone ran with the idea and followed the proper channels then great, if not, then you're in for a world of pain that begins and ends in dollar.
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Post by arbitterm on Mar 3, 2007 22:17:35 GMT -5
1) I wouldn't condone someone stealing ideas and selling them as thier own. One Bill Gates is enought ;D
2) EQ has laid kinda low, and if a developer approached the holder of the copyright, I'm sure a deal would be made. The problem is fanbase. The Matrix had an online game and look at what happened...and the Matrix was huge. Butmost people attribute that to developer screw ups. I think that if a good developer made the game and marketed it well, it could be a hit. But an MMORPG made, run, and maitained by fans is, sadly, unlikely. One day I plan to own my own developing company. If there are still people interested then, mabey I'll consider it. Don't get all excited, that's about 10 years away. Who knows though right?
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Post by Aedh on Mar 4, 2007 5:01:16 GMT -5
Hey ... ten years from now could see a revival of interest in EQ ... the basic premise is cool and timeless, and by then a generation about my son's age could be unearthing it and thinking to themselves ... "Hey ... they were makin' some splime* flicks back there in the early Noughts. Right on."
*or whatever the hip word for "hip" will be ten years from now.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Mar 4, 2007 7:57:10 GMT -5
Froody  |
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Cleric Furion
Resistance Member
"Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams...
Posts: 33
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Post by Cleric Furion on Mar 4, 2007 9:59:10 GMT -5
hey everyone - i dont read this forum much, here is my reply firstly thanks to arbitterm for your comments, u seem like a really nice person now to all the people who bit my head off im sorry for posting this i just thought i might share my idea with other people who love equilibrium just like I do, clearly thats not allowed here so i wont do it again, having said that, thanks to all of you for reading it, i know it is never going to happen i just thought what the heck, its worth a shot and for the record, i wasnt "demanding" mr anderson, i was merely asking you guys your opinion and for some feedback, just as someone else stated farewell Furion |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Mar 4, 2007 12:45:37 GMT -5
If someone contacted Dimension and asked them regarding the copyright of EQ, it could be a reality. But that's the first line of enquiry.
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Post by MisterAnderson on Mar 4, 2007 18:28:47 GMT -5
now to all the people who bit my head off im sorry for posting this i just thought i might share my idea with other people who love equilibrium just like I do, clearly thats not allowed here so i wont do it again, I have no issues with people sharing their ideas, in fact I welcome them with open arms. \/ \/ \/ \/ Excitement, enthusiasm & ideas from new people are great....bring them on.  And Furion, as far as I am concerned...they're demands, they certainly come across that way to me. I wouldn't rock up to a forum and in my first couple of posts say that others should make one of my ideas right off the bat. And if I have a short fuse in this particular forum, its because of a certain group of idiots ( and one gigantic idiot in particular) that chose to come in here and start shit. So you can thanks those people for that. But if you don't wish to hang around, thats fine too. Its your choice. It'll be your loss though....not ours. |
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Post by Mirabilis on Mar 4, 2007 19:12:01 GMT -5
Cleric Furion....if you are going to hang around....which you appear to be at the moment....why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself. I can see you're from South Africa, which is meant to be an amazing country geographically speaking...but you don't say if you're male or female, or what you're into....or anything. Maybe you could give us an official introduction on the "Introduction" thread on the "Resistance Discussions" forum? |
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Post by Libby on Mar 5, 2007 7:36:19 GMT -5
It's been said before, but sometimes it's difficult to gauge the tone of a post because we lack the face-to-face, listening-to-the intonation part of conversation.
We're a nice bunch here...and I think arbitterm needs to be around a bit longer before making spot judgements about how people should be ashamed etc...but we've had our fair share of flack over the years and it makes us a little wary of new members who appear to be preaching at us.
Certainly, MisterAnderson and his fellow HoM creators have had to put up with numerous wallies...
But as Mira says, tell us bit more about yourself and join in the general chatter...
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Cleric Furion
Resistance Member
"Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams...
Posts: 33
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Post by Cleric Furion on Mar 5, 2007 10:10:38 GMT -5
Hey guys, of course im sticking around, By saying "farewell" i meant farewell to this thread, I love equilibrium and judging by the millions of posts ive read in other forums/area's that all you peeps have posted, u seem like a nice bunch, I see now how after a bad day, and dealing with other peoples shit, my post isnt exactly the right thing to read and on a sideline, Mr Anderson, u helped with HoM  DUDE that game was bloody awesome - Congrats!!! ok back to what i was saying, i am sorry for making that post so direct and demanding, it wasnt my intention at all... Now about me...I better post this here just so all u peeps who i seemed to upset can read it I live in South Africa, it is a beautiful country, i live in the city Johannesburg (Tons of crime here tho  ) I am male, 15 years old. and i absoulutely LOVE the equilibrium film, infact i love everything to do with EQ. my favourite thing is the design of the guns. Those are awesome, im quite good with my hands, and im working on an airsoft gun moddel to make two m9 beretta's (airsoft guns) into the basic (not exactly the same at all) Cleric side arm. any other questions about me, id be happy to answer personally i would like to apologise to Mr Anderson and anyone else who felt offended, about my Post it wasnt the right time or way to say it at all, but lets put that behind us, and continue with our passion for Equilibrium I would never leave this forum ITS AWESOME - THANKS SO MUCH for this site JenGe its great!!! Regards Furion |
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Post by Aedh on Mar 5, 2007 11:13:31 GMT -5
personally i would like to apologise to Mr Anderson and anyone else who felt offended, about my Post it wasnt the right time or way to say it at all, but lets put that behind us, and continue with our passion for Equilibrium I would never leave this forum ITS AWESOME - THANKS SO MUCH for this site JenGe its great!!! Regards Furion Well, Cleric F: by virtue of the authority vested in me, which is none at all, I hereby present you with the Good Sport Award. [some kind of cool graphic] [/some kind of cool graphic] |
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Cleric Furion
Resistance Member
"Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams...
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Post by Cleric Furion on Mar 5, 2007 12:39:14 GMT -5
Thank you Aedh, appreciated jsut something to add here i was just wondering, if someone could help me out here at the bottom of this page: www.equilibriumfans.com/Games-Interactives.htmit reads "Equilibrium On-line RPG" but when i click the link, it just directs me to some site, where i have no idea whats going on, there are no posts or anything could someone just run over what that is quickly please ? it would be much appreciated :> regars Cleric F |
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Post by JenGe on Mar 5, 2007 16:05:09 GMT -5
personally i would like to apologise to Mr Anderson and anyone else who felt offended, about my Post it wasnt the right time or way to say it at all, but lets put that behind us, and continue with our passion for Equilibrium I would never leave this forum ITS AWESOME - THANKS SO MUCH for this site JenGe its great!!! Regards Furion Well, Cleric F: by virtue of the authority vested in me, which is none at all, I hereby present you with the Good Sport Award. [some kind of cool graphic] [/some kind of cool graphic] I hereby endow Aedh with the authority on this thread to dole out Good Sport Awards. |
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Post by JenGe on Mar 5, 2007 16:09:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you are talking about since I just checked the site and there are post as recent as Feb. 2007. Here is a direct link... pub219.ezboard.com/bequilibriumIt is not in anyway affiliated with the management of this site. It is another Equilibrium fan endeavor. You do realize there are differing types of RPG's right? |
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Post by JenGe on Mar 5, 2007 16:14:19 GMT -5
and on a sideline, Mr Anderson, u helped with HoM DUDE that game was bloody awesome - Congrats!!! I think you need to know Mr. A didn't just "help". It is his and Rico's baby. Mr. A was the originator of the entire concept (MOD) to begin with. This is "his" board. I gave it to him. |
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Post by Mirabilis on Mar 5, 2007 16:16:34 GMT -5
Hey guys, of course im sticking around, By saying "farewell" i meant farewell to this thread, I love equilibrium and judging by the millions of posts ive read in other forums/area's that all you peeps have posted, u seem like a nice bunch, I see now how after a bad day, and dealing with other peoples shit, my post isnt exactly the right thing to read and on a sideline, Mr Anderson, u helped with HoM DUDE that game was bloody awesome - Congrats!!! ok back to what i was saying, i am sorry for making that post so direct and demanding, it wasnt my intention at all... Now about me...I better post this here just so all u peeps who i seemed to upset can read it I live in South Africa, it is a beautiful country, i live in the city Johannesburg (Tons of crime here tho ) I am male, 15 years old. and i absoulutely LOVE the equilibrium film, infact i love everything to do with EQ. my favourite thing is the design of the guns. Those are awesome, im quite good with my hands, and im working on an airsoft gun moddel to make two m9 beretta's (airsoft guns) into the basic (not exactly the same at all) Cleric side arm. any other questions about me, id be happy to answer personally i would like to apologise to Mr Anderson and anyone else who felt offended, about my Post it wasnt the right time or way to say it at all, but lets put that behind us, and continue with our passion for Equilibrium I would never leave this forum ITS AWESOME - THANKS SO MUCH for this site JenGe its great!!! Regards Furion Welcome to the boards Furion....you WILL enjoy it here! (That's an order Cleric! ) ;D Now take your dose and STOP enjoying yourself!  |
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Post by MisterAnderson on Mar 5, 2007 17:06:11 GMT -5
Well Im very pleased that all that has been sorted out! I am grateful for your apology, its shows that you do indeed have respect & it tells me you do want to stick around. Which makes Mister Anderson a very happy camper! So I now personally extend you an official welcome to the boards, Cleric Furion.  I see now how after a bad day, and dealing with other peoples shit, my post isnt exactly the right thing to read Trust me when I say, I know all about those sorts of days. And if you have any more ideas about this game to add to this thread please do so. Theres certainly no laws about dreaming/wishing for great things! |
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) I am male, 15 years old. and i absoulutely LOVE the equilibrium film, infact i love everything to do with EQ. my favourite thing is the design of the guns. Those are awesome, im quite good with my hands, and im working on an airsoft gun moddel to make two m9 beretta's (airsoft guns) into the basic (not exactly the same at all) Cleric side arm.