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Post by JenGe on Oct 16, 2004 10:56:15 GMT -5
Ahhh...the joys of newbie eagerness...brings life back to the forums. Before I even attempt to tackle any of your points have you read the FAQ page on the main site?? (or even listened to the commentary yet??) I ask because of the following... Q. Why do Brandt & DuPont show emotion and what about Brandt's smile?
A. They are both feeling. Several clues to this are given throughout the film. Also note that Prozium does not eliminate emotions entirely but merely suppresses the highs and lows like many drugs we have today. This is made clear at the beginning of the film.I think that too often people, especially those who are younger in age tend to view aspects of the film in black & white when most of it is actually gray. People have emotions in Libria. They are just suppressed. Ask anyone who is on any of the numerous mood altering medications today & they can tall you that often life is very similar to the "drone" like state you see the people in Libria. I have first hand knowledge of this. Could be one of the reasons why EQ hit such a cord with me. Also the scenes that you cite can be merely attributed to vestigial social reactions then to true emotion. How often in a day do we politely ask "How are you doing?" and/or respond "Fine" when in reality there is little truth or genuine concern/thought in either. We just react because we have been programed/conditioned to like Pavlov's dogs. Without thought ...without actual reason. |
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Post by Sontin-JudasFm on Oct 16, 2004 10:57:57 GMT -5
Hiya, and welcome  As far as Brandt goes, don't forget the end. It wasn't Brandt's plan; it was DuPont's. DuPont says that 'Brandt's job was to make you feel safe, secure'. Brandt's agitation as he's being dragged away would be the only thing capable of doing that; Preston would believe that Brandt is going to be burned for sense offence and therefore no further threat to him. Father's speech; firstly, passion and fervour are not the same as emotions. The tone of voice could just be how much he believes in it. Also, in a place where feeling and emotions are illegal, no Librian (bar Grammaton agents and Resistance fighters) would know the signs and since they were emotionless, it wouldn't make much difference. Even if they did suspect Father was off the dose...well, what of it? They wouldn't have a feeling of 'this is unfair' or 'double standards' because they wouldn't feel anything. Applause...like you say, it would happen. The only one who seems to be moderately enthusiastic about it is Jurgen, and I think that's more because as the leader of the Resistance, he wants to be seen to be supportive of Father's regime. Okay...I think that's it Anyone else has a different take on this, feel free |
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Post by JenGe on Oct 16, 2004 12:28:34 GMT -5
Sorry, but a remark like that nullifies your comment about seeing the film over & over. I'm not buying it buster. If you have the time to post here you have the time to educate yourself about the film. The commentaries are a wealth of knowledge about EQ's world, background, & universe. I can't be bothered with people who do not put some effort into becoming informed themselves before they post redundant topics. |
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Post by Libby on Oct 16, 2004 19:02:06 GMT -5
And anyways...cut a n00b some slack here, i was just trying to prod some reaction out of some people here, that's all. I'm not breaking any rules am I Well, JenGe decides the rules around here and when she makes one, we stick to it... If you really want to prod some reaction, without sounding like a total twit, then maybe you should show a little more knowledge and awareness. I'll agree that you've come up with an interesting idea on your 'Refilm?' thread but your general attitude is not really going to endear you to the longer standing members...or even some of the newer ones. We do cut new people plenty of slack, but we expect a bit of respect too. Some of us more dusty members know the film frame-by-frame. It can't be helped that many, many topics have already been covered in great depth and...as I said in the introduction thread...which it appears you haven't read... ...and...er...don't upset ClericWolf! |
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Post by JenGe on Oct 17, 2004 10:15:50 GMT -5
I'm not breaking any rules am I You must have also missed my PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!!! thread... ...and believe me...I enjoy every minute of it... ;D |
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Post by JenGe on Oct 19, 2004 10:23:52 GMT -5
For those of you who wander onto this thread & are a tad confussed it looks as though H2SO4 has deleted all of his posts here.  |
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Post by Libby on Oct 19, 2004 15:55:25 GMT -5
Ah well...if you can't stand the heat... stay away from the City Furnaces! ;D
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Post by TheMacroprosopus on Oct 19, 2004 16:07:46 GMT -5
Yeah. After reading the various posts of his that haven't been deleted, I don't like him. And I just really learned about his presence now. That's saying something.
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Post by JenGe on Oct 20, 2004 20:02:47 GMT -5
Ah well...if you can't stand the heat... stay away from the City Furnaces! ;D A visual reminder... ;D |
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 21, 2004 6:29:53 GMT -5
Ah well...if you can't stand the heat... stay away from the City Furnaces! ;D Great advice, Libby. Seems the sulfuric acid heeded your advice. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 21, 2004 6:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by Libby on Oct 21, 2004 14:57:26 GMT -5
;D ROFLOL...shame really...he was actually quite fun (in a perverse sort of way) and did have an interesting line of discussion. I think if he hadn't been so adversarial we'd have warmed to him. I suppose we should have taken note of the 'can't be bothered with a sig/avatar/whatever'
Look at LoneClericCobra...fun, funny, interesting and above all comes across as a really nice guy!
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Oct 22, 2004 7:17:23 GMT -5
For those of you who wander onto this thread & are a tad confussed it looks as though H2SO4 has deleted all of his posts here. *peers* Oh, right? Made as much impact for me as a small pebble thrown onto a frozen lake. |
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Post by DeadCleric on Oct 22, 2004 8:59:03 GMT -5
LOL how perverse  Deleting all of your posts! That is so funny! ;D |
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 22, 2004 11:24:25 GMT -5
*chuckles*
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Post by H2SO4 on Oct 24, 2004 14:00:14 GMT -5
Yes i deleted them cos i couldn't stand someone else taking it and posting a response to EVERYTHING I say. This topic is irrelevant, anyways, what's it still doing here? I was being an asshole to no one. I can't believe people are more angered by a tired person than by an asshole. Even that idiot the ure or whatever his name was got more quarter than me. AND it's very sad to tune someone like this and post in a dead thread really  Disperse! the show is over. See you somewhere else and forget about this ok? |
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Post by JenGe on Oct 24, 2004 15:30:22 GMT -5
Yes i deleted them cos i couldn't stand someone else taking it and posting a response to EVERYTHING I say. This topic is irrelevant, anyways, what's it still doing here? You do not control everything...I do. It is here because I allow it to be so & discussion on it will remain for as long as I say. The show is not over especially since you continue to post on it yourself. This is not a "last word" thread. ;D |
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Post by NateP on Oct 24, 2004 21:12:52 GMT -5
Dumbass...... messing with Jen is like playing with a Cobra snake......go ahead, and when it bites you in the jugular and spills your blood over everything and you die a painful agonizing death, I'll be there with my camera, laughing and selling souvenirs, and maybe, just maybe I'll toss some gas on you to help increase the pain........C'mon boy, keep posting, We haven't had a good noob brawl in a while.....
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Post by NateP on Oct 24, 2004 21:13:57 GMT -5
Congrats to the 4,000+ Posts Jen..... Thats cool! ;D
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 25, 2004 5:43:40 GMT -5
Yes i deleted them cos i couldn't stand someone else taking it and posting a response to EVERYTHING I say. This topic is irrelevant, anyways, what's it still doing here? I was being an asshole to no one. I can't believe people are more angered by a tired person than by an asshole. Even that idiot the ure or whatever his name was got more quarter than me. AND it's very sad to tune someone like this and post in a dead thread really Disperse! the show is over. See you somewhere else and forget about this ok? Who are you to say those things? You've just messed with the great webmaster, JenGe. |
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Post by Xenia Onatopp- Bale on Oct 25, 2004 5:45:53 GMT -5
Dumbass...... messing with Jen is like playing with a Cobra snake......go ahead, and when it bites you in the jugular and spills your blood over everything and you die a painful agonizing death, I'll be there with my camera, laughing and selling souvenirs, and maybe, just mabe I'll toss some gas on you to help increase the pain........C'mon boy, keep posting, We've haven't had a good noob brawl in a while..... I think he just played with the very lethal Black Mamba. And very nice plan, NateP. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Deleting all of your posts! That is so funny! ;D
