Good quality airsoft guns?

[ClericJoshua_3rdclass]

Hello. My question is what sort of automatic airsoft guns do people use if they are trying to develop a Gun-Kata? I have a spring driven model that has to cocked each time to shoot and was wondering if anyone else has any options. Because there is quite a variety out there. Thank you

[Cleric Russ]

I work with airsoft as part of the motion picture industry, right now your best bet would be one of the "green gas" pistols as a more-or-less "proper" kata tool.

The reason for this is that it can be charged up and "fired" without necessarily placing the pellets in it [something you shouldn't even remotely be thinking of doing with other people/animals/breakable objects around].

Battery operated units tend to be more rifles than pistols and of those [pistols] that are "spring" loaded they are as you describe them- single action mechanisms requiring recocking of the hammer or slide components prior to 'firing' it again.

If you are looking for a specific brand, make, model of pistol, I can reccommend a few, but I'd like to look at the new crop of AirSoft gear coming for '07 before I'd make definitive recommendations.

Hope this helps!

[Oreo]

I do my own cinema work with airsoft here and there. If you're looking for a good combination of stopping power and screen realism, I would try moddifying a pair of these babies:



This is the Tokyo Marui gas powered Beretta M9. The M9 is the real world gun model that the Cleric weapons were built around.
Granted it's only in semi auto, but Preston was in semi during the
night fight in the Nethers, so may just wanna deal with it. Especially
if you would much rather have accurate looking and weighing
Grammaton Cleric weapons.

[Oreo]

clericruss said:

The reason for this is that it can be charged up and "fired" without necessarily placing the pellets in it [something you shouldn't even remotely be thinking of doing with other people/animals/breakable objects around].

All the gas guns I know are blowback and the slides will stay locked back if there are no BB's in the chamber. Can you talk to me about this sometime? I would like to use gas guns, the gas makes it more believable if I add a muzzle flash in post.

[Agent Spencer]

Gbb's (Gas Blowbacks) would make good cinematic guns. And an aquantence of mine actually built the Equilibrium Beretta's. They're amazing.

But, to answer your question Oreo.

You could use GBB's in a few ways. Each has its advantages and disadvantages.

1) Load the guns up with bb's and gas, and film.
- Downside is that its dangerous to shoot bb's at other actors.

2) Gas the guns, then shoot the film.
- Downside is that each shot will normally release way more gas than if loaded.

Your best bet is the second one, as it is safe, and guns will probably still work. If this is for an EQ movie, then you could get HFC 190's for the berettas, as they have Semi and Full auto modes.

If you have any other questions on airsoft as props or in general, feel free to ask.

Spencer

[Oreo]

Yeah, but I figured that a gas blowback gun would blow the slide of the pistol back and leave it in the locked position if the mag was empty of BB's, thus compromising the shot in the film since now you're shooting a gun with the slide back as if the mag was empty.

Oh, and I found a site that sells the full auto HFC M190. if I ever need to make an Eq movie (or if I have enough money and just want some badass guns) I will deff get these.

[Agent Spencer]

oreo said:

Yeah, but I figured that a gas blowback gun would blow the slide of the pistol back and leave it in the locked position if the mag was empty of BB's, thus compromising the shot in the film since now you're shooting a gun with the slide back as if the mag was empty.

Yes, you are correct, I forgot to mention this in my original post. You will need to modify the Slide Lock, or hold it down manually, in order to allow the slide free movement regardless of ammunition.

Spencer

[Oreo]

any sites telling you how to modify the slide lock? I may consider doing that...

[matsuo]

Hi Oreo, here's the basic idea, unfortunately I only have a real Beretta to show you but the principle is the same on the airsoft guns.



Thingie number one pushes up on thingie number two when the magazine is empty.
When #2 is pushed up, the slide locks back in the open position.

If you snip off thingie number two then it will not be engaged by thingie number one. You need only remove the tip of that protrusion, so that there is nothing there left to contact with the corresponding part on the magazine.

This procedure is non reversible obviously..so if you want to return it to it's original state you'll have to replace the entire part.

Option two...learn to shoot with your thumb holding the slide stop down...

Hope that helped.

Matt

[Oreo]

cool, that was informative. thanks. if it damages the gun I may just use my thumb, unless I have enough money to replace it should I want to.

[Cleric Furion]

hello spencer i wish to enquire about what u said in an earlier post you said that a good airsoft gun to get would be the "HFC 190's for the berettas, as they have Semi and Full auto modes." im looking for a really good auto airsoft gun, where can i find pictures on this gun, and i live in South Africa, so how would it be possible for me to buy such a gun and where ? how much would i pay for the actual gun + shipping costs etc ? thanks man,

please get back to me asap ta

[Cleric Furion]

or even oreo you said u found a good website to purchase those HFC 190's beretta airsoft gun, please link me to that site, im really interested in finding out price and stuff for that gun - thanks

[Cleric Furion]

ok, i found a site that sells it, it sells it in american dollars and i live in SA so it wud be more expensive for me, and also what do airsoft guns shoot ? do they shoot plastic BB's or metal mushroom pellets or what ?

please get back to me in this thread asap thanks so much !!

[Oreo]

They shoot little plastic 6 mm BB's, that will at most sting against human flesh. still dangerous if it hits your eyes of course.

[Cleric Furion]

thanks for replying Oreo, thats informative information

just one thing if i buy a good quility Airsoft gun, that shoots these plastic BB's with Gas, would it be a self defensive weapon, becaue im looking for a weapon that could really hurt someone had they attacked me, (self defense)

thanks alot please get back to me about this matter asap

regards Cleric F

[Optics]

Not really an airsoft guy, but my brother has electric and gas ones which have blow-back and don't require being pumped back each time, so you could try those types.

[nymphetamine]

Just a few things to add(I know it's an old thread sorry but here goes)
First off if you want the M9 from the movie in airsoft form... www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_70&products_id=4494

And secondly if anyone, like you movie guys, wants any info at all on this airsoft stuff just ask me and i'll do the best I can . Oh and just a few little tidbits: Propane instead of green gas is much much cheaper however on any model with a plastic slide(mainly lower-end but some very high-end airsoft guns like Tokyo Marui generally have these) green gas or duster gas is much safer.

[batmanspawn]

where did the clerics store their guns
did they wear double shoulder holsters, or double leg holsters?
Ive been trying to figure this out bcause its one of my costumes I wanna do
any info would be helpful thx my email is [e-mail]
thx/later/Bruce