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Post by aalisha on Apr 26, 2006 19:54:40 GMT -5
what was the sword style christian used when he was practicing by himself till the taye diggs came in to harass him?
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Post by Amie on Apr 27, 2006 8:36:22 GMT -5
I lent my EQ dvd to my sister, so I can't check what Kurt said in the commentary (he called them something). But I think those wooden practice swords are used by Kendoists for kata, and they're callked bokken or bokuto. If they're made of bamboo, they would be shinai.
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Post by JenGe on Apr 27, 2006 10:06:56 GMT -5
Since I have the commentary on my website normally we could check it there for what Wimmer stated about that scene but since Freewebs is currently screwing with me again that will have to wait until they fix the current error that the site is experiencing.  (once the images on the board are back the site will be back...damn them!!!) |
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Post by JenGe on Apr 27, 2006 14:35:39 GMT -5
Looks like my site is back so here you go... Kurt:...these wooden, sort of, kendo-like swords that they're fighting with...
Lucas: ...And we broke all of them.
Kurt: We broke all of them.
Lucas: These guys were really whacking on each other for real. They both give, we, Vickers gave them a lot of training.
Kurt: No stuntmen for this.
Lucas: Yeah, they beat on each other with these wooden kendo things and they broke every single one of them.
Kurt: That's right.
Lucas: It was crazy.www.equilibriumfans.com/commentaryb10.htm |
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Post by Amie on Apr 27, 2006 15:04:55 GMT -5
"Wooden kendo things" -- that about sums it up. ;D (pretty sure they actually called it a specific name, maybe somewhere else?... hmmmm, I might have to search through the commentary for that.  ) |
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Apr 27, 2006 18:34:23 GMT -5
They reminded me of 'Tonfa'
Edit: I had to watch it again, yeah, those are Bokken, sounds like Christian and Taye were going at it with a passion to break them, either that or as GunFu says they were made out of lighter wood than the proper things.
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Post by GunFu on Apr 27, 2006 18:58:52 GMT -5
The Japanese word for a wooden training sword as used in kendo and kenjutsu training is "bokken", which just means "wooden sword". If the actors kept breaking them, that suggests that the props department made them out of light wood (maybe pine) - real bokken are made out of hardwoods, white oak being a common timber.
Preston was shown doing a kenjutsu-style kata, but chances are that it was not based on any one authentic Japanese style. The "reverse grip" position is used in many traditional ryu (schools) but I don't think any kata actually require the practitioner to use the reverse grip all the time, so that was probably something invented by the stunt crew.
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Post by JenGe on Apr 27, 2006 20:31:49 GMT -5
The "reverse grip" position is used in many traditional ryu (schools) but I don't think any kata actually require the practitioner to use the reverse grip all the time, so that was probably something invented by the stunt crew. Wimmer actually does comment about what you call the "reverse grip" on the DVD... Wimmer - "Christian fights underhanded here, he always fights underhanded, that of course is a style of Zatoichi. The blind swordsman. "www.freewebs.com/equilibrium-movie/commentarya10.htm |
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Post by GunFu on Apr 27, 2006 22:51:00 GMT -5
Yes - to clarify, Zatoichi is also a fictional character, so whereas you could study the fight choreography of the Zatoichi movies to see this technique in action, it doesn't represent a traditional ryu or style. It's what the Japanese would call chambara tachimawari (movie fighting).
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Apr 28, 2006 5:25:35 GMT -5
Quite appropriate for a movie  |
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Post by GunFu on Apr 28, 2006 16:53:00 GMT -5
Sure - I'm not saying that there's anything "wrong" with the movie style, just that (trying to answer the original poster's question) it's not something you could learn in a traditional dojo.
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Post by Witcher Wolf on Apr 29, 2006 5:54:47 GMT -5
I totally agree there GunFu, it's something that you can't learn at a traditional dojo for certain. I was just commenting mostly that the name given to it, was appropriate (and pretty cool at that). |
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Post by Gothicgds on Sept 27, 2006 13:39:07 GMT -5
Sure - I'm not saying that there's anything "wrong" with the movie style, just that (trying to answer the original poster's question) it's not something you could learn in a traditional dojo. That's a pity, because it's a really cool style. I wouldn't mind learning it if I could. |
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Post by Aedh on Sept 27, 2006 21:39:18 GMT -5
There is another style you can't learn in a dojo ... keijojutsu, the Japanese police baton style, used for riot control ... only taught to officers ...
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