the (good) EQ sequel thread (cast, synposis, etc)

[ClericKaine]

first off i know EQ is not something that needs a sequel, however making something new thats still within the same universe i think is incredibly possible, now its 5am where im at and currently hurricane winds are still blowing. so bare with me on this subject (cus i know it been done to death).

synopsis - 20 years after the incident in libria a simialar city called tethlian is one of the remaining prozium dependent citys left, while libria has become a free censory republic. tethlian therefore has created a new dose of prozium, one that makes its users gain a mental and physical dependence on the drug to ensure that intervals do not cease, also a special task force of clerics (think the swat team of the tetragrammaton) has been formed to enfore the law, one day it is discoverd that one of there own has grown an immunity or resistance to the drug (madsen) upon his death, his partner (kaine) also begins to develop an immunity as well, and soon discovers the underground, and no is faced with a choice, free tethlian from its inhuman prison or continue to deny wat he is.

not very detailed but its a start.

cast/characters

chancellor damen - head of the council, blackhair, white male, rules with firm hand.
-played by: john travolta

cleric winters - white female, cold in demanor,prototype of what a cleric is.
-played by: mila jovovich

cleric madsen - asian male, obviously off dosage, very intuitive, yet also gives in to humanity.
-played by:jason scott lee

cleric jennings - black male, fast strong, efficent, just dangerous.
played by: morris chestnut

clerice kaine - ethnic male, elite amongst his own task force, eventually becomes the spark the underground needs.
played by:...........me ;D

cleric masters - white male, another intuitive type, very weary by nature, almost sees to know what your thinking before you know it, also gets brutally killed in the end.
played by:leonardo dicraprio (come on who doesnt wanna see him die horribly)

alisson - sense offender, female, young and pretty, shows kaine his own humanity and love.
played by:elisa cuthbert

raphael - underground leader, embraces kaine and also embraced madsen, knows that if chancellor damen dies that tethlian could also become free.
played by:jean reno

things that might be good to know -
- prozium3 is designed to garner dependency from its users.
- the task force is the best of the best, it has 3 branchs...counter terrorism, paramilatary and law enforcement, kaine and his unit being part of the latter.
- libria is now a free republic. tethlian is prozium society.
- this is supposed to take place 20 years after EQ.

also i would like to write it so that it also plays like a remake, the reason why is because there were so many great moments from the first movie and no one really saw that first one, so id want to incorporate that into what im doing.

any remblances of my story to any one elses is entirely coincidental, and if i find someone bitting my shit im gonna cyber kick your ass!

oh and tell me what you think

[Witcher Wolf]

It wouldn't work because you're essentially remaking the first movie, it would be like remaking Batman only rather than having Michael Keaton in the first 2 movies, you had Christian Bale.

I work as a writer, some of the folks I know are professional script writers, authors, actors and so forth.

At the moment what you have is your own ego-trip fantasy, now I'm not saying this to be rude, but I am saying it as a professional and how it comes across to me.

I would certainly not entertain this idea for a movie sequel as it stands.

It's derivative of the first film and there is nothing in there that sparks my creative impulses. And right at the end you sink any chance of being taken seriously by the people I know, such as Michael Sheard (Admiral Ozzel in SW: Empire Strikes Back).

You need to change your pitch and your attitude, hip-fly gansta-rap filmmakers do not win prizes nor do they win anything except a quick swish into the recycle bin of the harshest critics in the industry.

You are best to begin lower down the ladder and try creating some fiction based on EQ, if you can do that and the majority of the fans of this board comment in the positive - you're getting closer to achieving something worthwhile.

Look at the creative works of JudasFM and Libby on the board for good examples, I hesitate to blow my own trumpet regarding the story: Ashes, but no doubt someone else will come forwards to mention that if I don't.

To an outsider this looks like this:

1) You're ripping off Kurt Wimmer's vision/work and trying to take credit for it.

2) A cleric that has grown an immunity to Prozium is frighteningly similar to Preston who gains his understanding of emotion from stopping his dose. Again a derivation from EQ.

3) Why should we give you a budget for remaking something that was perfectly good in the first place?

4) Why should we cast you in the film when we have other actors we can hire with more experience? (Kurt appeared in his own movie because he was the director and there were valld reasons in that respect?)

You may want to be a director like Kevin Smith who appears in his movies, as Silent Bob, but the trick here is that he doesn't do all that much.

Don't try and be a director and actor at the same time, the industry works on a strata of sorts, actors act, directors direct, producers produce - it's very rare to find one that can do both really really well.

Walk on parts yes, like Peter Jackson etc.

You asked what people thought, sadly a lot of people will have differing opinions and mine is that you need to concentrate on one field before you try and cast yourself in a sequel to such a movie.

It comes across as extremely arrogant and naive at the same time, not just to me but to other people who have read this where I am and I'd rather see you learn to walk before you try to run, and flying is right out.

I am sure some people will disagree with me, but I didn't get where I am today by writing things like: any remblances of my story to any one elses is entirely coincidental, and if i find someone bitting my shit im gonna cyber kick your ass!

On the strength of that alone, I almost ignored your whole post.

[MisterAnderson]

And I'll back everything the Wolf said.

Ashes (Cleric Wolfs fanfic) totally pwns your ideas.

And thats a fact, jack.

I've got my own idea for a sequel - to be made into a playable game/mod (thankfully its nothing like yours) which the Wolf has seen and even I think he would say its better than yours. And I haven'yt written much before.

My advice to you now is: "Lose the attitude or lose your right to post here."

[Witcher Wolf]

Based on what you've written, what I've seen and so forth Mr Anderson. I have to say it has a great deal of potential.

In-fact I was going to offer to Mentor you and any of the team's writers (I don't know if you're the team's sole writer or not), if that was acceptable.

Just let me know.

[Libby]

Now, we're a nice bunch here so it takes a lot to get the Wolfish hackles raised, but I think joining the site with all guns blazing is not the best way to endear yourself to the literary crowd.

I think ClericWolf pretty much said it all, really...and if he won't blow his own trumpet - or should that be howl? - I will...read 'Ashes' and 'House of Cards' for starters...then have a look at the other fics...get the feel the of the film...immerse yourself in it, then come up with something original...

I'm not really sure what you are looking to gain from simply posting a synopsis etc...even if we said 'Oooh! great!'...what does that mean? Nothing really...better to spend time actually writing/editing an original idea and then maybe get a friend to beta it for you...once you're happy, then send it to JenGe...

To continue ClericWolf's comment...Remember what happened to Icarus!

[ClericKaine]

dude it was just an idea, the fact of casting myself was a joke, i just thought it would be cool to maybe post this here, i had no intention of seeming like im going all guns ablazing as you say which i had no idea i was doing. its wat you call a fantasy thread (which was my intention) meaning that there is a 600% chance non of this would ever happen, and it was also my first post, and i clearly stated that i think it would have to be a remake of sorts.

im sorry if anyone thinks it was an attitude cus i was clearly just being light hearted at 5am in the morning, and by the by i see most of you gettting your panties in a knot over something so menial as what i posted in that case you need to get a life, seriously, yes i know the idea sucks but i thought id share it with you cus i love EQ, im not trying to make it my own, im just trying to expand on it without touching the original in my own mind, and i thought it would be okay to share that with you all, instead i get heckled, personally i think thats wrong, you could have just said "it sucks" it would garner the same result instead of making me waste my life reading wolfs rant on something as i said before "menial".

and again try getting a life and things wont make you so mad, and im not going to satisfy an argument online this may or may not spark, cus really who has time for that, i came to have fun, share my ideas, talk and meet new ppl, not have some ppl i dont even know yet completly go off on me for no reason, ive got better things to do, and i would never do that, and have never done that to anyone.

[skippythegator]

well...better luck on your next post CK....

[Witcher Wolf]

I apologise if I was harsh sounding, it wasn't my intent, but you'll probably get worse from people in the future.

We're not psychic, the internet is a hard place to try and determine the serious nature (or not) of a post.

So lets try this again shall we.

I'm Wolf welcome to the forums.

[Libby]

ClericKaine said:

im sorry if anyone thinks it was an attitude cus i was clearly just being light hearted at 5am in the morning, and by the by i see most of you gettting your panties in a knot over something so menial as what i posted in that case you need to get a life
....and again try getting a life and things wont make you so mad, .

Hmm...you don't know us here, so telling us to 'get a life' is a bit rude...but I don't take offense and I don't want to get into any brawls either...we were just making observations.

I do have a life...quite an exciting one actually...as far as I'm concerned...it's just that I like the people here and we have some great discussions on topics of mutual interest...

I couldn't tell if you were serious or not...you could have used a few 'smileys' or flagged it some way.

Thing is, those of us who create fiction..here or other sites...take it quite seriously, so 'menial' isn't a term I would use. We enjoy the writing process and the pleasure we hope it brings to others who may read it...

ClericWolf knows what he talking about...and if you are serious at all about writing, then that's great. Take on board what he says, though...it's advice given in good grace and in the light of experience.

I hope you still feel you can join in the discussions...we'd welcome your input on all the boards! ;D

[JenGe]

Personally I think that EVERYONE on this thread is overreacting a bit.

Time to hand out the Prozium again!! Line up!! ;D

[PeKa]

i don't think we need a sequel

[Witcher Wolf]

JenGe said:

Personally I think that EVERYONE on this thread is overreacting a bit.

Time to hand out the Prozium again!! Line up!! ;D

Mmmmmm Proziyummy...

I'm all better now *glazed expression*

[Libby]

*FrecklesBale* said:

i don't think we need a sequel

Who asked you?

OK....where's that Prozium tanker?

Aaaaah! That's better....

*matching glazed expression*

[pyro]

kaine- Wolf was just trying to give you advice, if you stated in your thead that you were joking then say so! and why is it in here with other serious issues where people like to debate? just in the future read the forum discriptions and place thread where they need to go [like this one should be in EC-10].

in the end you will save everyone a head ache and your self from being removed

[TheMacroprosopus]

About half way through reading this thread, I was gonna post something, because there was some pretty uncalled for statements. But, I have decided against it, because I saw that there are, in fact, varying points of view. So, I'll shut up.

[Sontin-JudasFm]

ClericKaine said:

one day it is discoverd that one of there own has grown an immunity or resistance to the drug (madsen) upon his death, his partner (kaine) also begins to develop an immunity as well

Um. As one or two people on this board know, I'm pretty much terrified of being seen to blow my own trumpet (as Wolf put it) for varying reasons, but someone who's immune to Prozium...sounds a lot like a certain one of my characters to me

[Libby]

Agreed Judas...as Kevin Halls might say (paraphrased of course)

"There's only room for one immune person in this year group."
;D

[darko]

ClericWolf said:

I work as a writer, some of the folks I know are professional script writers, authors, actors and so forth.

>:(I am so envious right now you have no idea...

<*Wants to be a writer/actor/graphic artist...

But hey, I mean I am going to school for graphic design, so step 1 is almost done. But still Wolf: I'm jealous of you, you lucky duck.

[Witcher Wolf]

If you can take the good with the bad, some of the harshest criticisms and still keep your humour, you'll do really well.

It's taken me a long time to get where I am now.

[darko]

Yeah, it's hard to get into the industry without people bashing you and criticizing you everywhere you go. And you do need to keep a straight face and not let it get to you!

Thanks Wolfie!