time to celebrate UV is finally out!

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nouseforaname said:

. You guys are crazy to enjoy this. i know you guys love the Wimmer, but if something is bad, just say it.

See that just does not hold for me. We took my son's girlfriend last night who has never seen a Wimmer film in her life and she absolutely loved UV.

Why can't people just enjoy different films than you do?

Is it so hard to understand that people have differing likes and needs in films??

That is true Jen, and no one is telling anyone what to enjoy or to like, we are all simply voicing our opinions on the film. By you asking those questions you are almost saying his opinions are wrong which isn't fair. Like u said yourself we all like different things and we all have our opinions.

[JenGe]

No Mark...when you make a statement such as this..."i know you guys love the Wimmer, but if something is bad, just say it." You are not just stating your own opinion but pusing yours on other people.

I do not think that UV is bad and comments like that are not going to change my mind just because you see it differently.

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admin said:

No Mark...when you make a statement such as this..."i know you guys love the Wimmer, but if something is bad, just say it." You are not just stating your own opinion but pusing yours on other people.

Hmm perhaps, but it also hard to judge tone when reading what someone writes so you sometimes have to take things in stride when it comes to how they are trying to state it.

And again if you do not think UV is bad, that's great, i'm glad you enjoyed the movie. I enjoyed the action scenes at least!

[SF]

please someone here tell me what was good about this film?
Yes there were good ideas in the film but were not exicuted well. We cant say a movie was good cause it had a good idea.
you cant say the cgi was good
the acting wasnt good, and because there is worse out there doesnt make this movie good.
same goes with the dialogue. Just cause at one point other movies had bad dialogue, doesnt mean this movie is good.
If the matrix had crappy cgi and acting and poor editing and so on, you guys wouldnt be here saying, "Oh man that movie is great because it could have been if it had more money."
So dont do that with this movie.

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SF said:

please someone here tell me what was good about this film?
Yes there were good ideas in the film but were not exicuted well. We cant say a movie was good cause it had a good idea.
you cant say the cgi was good
the acting wasnt good, and because there is worse out there doesnt make this movie good.
same goes with the dialogue. Just cause at one point other movies had bad dialogue, doesnt mean this movie is good.
If the matrix had crappy cgi and acting and poor editing and so on, you guys wouldnt be here saying, "Oh man that movie is great because it could have been if it had more money."
So dont do that with this movie.

I don't think people are doing that with this movie, it is simply there opinions on the film. And for the record I only liked the first Matrix But though SF in this post you seem to be mad cause everyone isn't thinking like you. I mean I agree with you on some points but everyone has tehre own ideas about the movie.

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nouseforaname said:

SF said:

please someone here tell me what was good about this film?
Yes there were good ideas in the film but were not exicuted well. We cant say a movie was good cause it had a good idea.
you cant say the cgi was good
the acting wasnt good, and because there is worse out there doesnt make this movie good.
same goes with the dialogue. Just cause at one point other movies had bad dialogue, doesnt mean this movie is good.
If the matrix had crappy cgi and acting and poor editing and so on, you guys wouldnt be here saying, "Oh man that movie is great because it could have been if it had more money."
So dont do that with this movie.

I don't think people are doing that with this movie, it is simply there opinions on the film. And for the record I only liked the first Matrix But though SF in this post you seem to be mad cause everyone isn't thinking like you. I mean I agree with you on some points but everyone has tehre own ideas about the movie.

damn it you're right!!!!
I just dont like it when people dont actually think about what makes a movie good and all they do is look at the pretty colors.
they have their opinion and I have mine. so no one is really right or wrong. I was just trying to help people think about what makes a movie good.
But I guess you'll always have the Micheal Bay lovers around.
Im ganna go a head and support Darren Aronofski. But guess what, if his next movie sucks, Im going to say it sucks.

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oh yeah and I really only liked the first Matrix as a whole film too. the rest had some good moments i wouldnt mind watching again.

[jackmode]

reasons why i liked this movie


1) completly original...not like anything ive ever seen
2)great...great action scenes
3)plenty of them
4)millas a sexy woman
5)violet was a sleeping giant
6)they pissed her off...now theres no stopping her
7)its a ticking clock movie....meaning....our hero has to rush....has to think fast...and has nothing to lose....(cuz shes gonna die in 24 hours)
8)special effects look just like a comic book
9)motercyle up building
10)creative weapons...flat space technology is abrilliant idea.....and i love that sword
11)budget limitations.....he made a all cgi movie with 30 mil. ....thats crazy...and if you cant appreciate that...you dont understand it
12)i love dystopian type movies...with a government that controls everything....
13)i love when a lone hero goes against that government.....
14) an innocent kid gets killed......

im starting to love it more than EQ....because i like milla more than i like bale......i like seeing her kick ass more than i like seeing bale kick ass....

[tjfbryant]

just because I loved Wimmer's creation EQ, doesn't mean I HAVE To Love UV.

I thought UV was a good action flick for what it was.
IF I was an average movie goer and just saw UV without doing a "background" check on the movie production, cast etc I probably would have had a hard time understanding where Wimmer was coming from.

JUST like if I was a Spielberg fan. I loved WOTW, and Saving Private Ryan...but what the hell was he thinkin when he made Jurassic Park 2 and 3. (At the time I didn't do any background research...nor did I care at the time)

But Following Wimmer as a fan of his work its exciting to learn about the production status and what he was trying to accomplish.....ya understand what I mean?
I think I explained it right.

[JenGe]

sf said:

I just dont like it when people dont actually think about what makes a movie good and all they do is look at the pretty colors.

What do you care what they look at? If color turns them on then let it...if it's Milla in a hot suit then let them. Who are you to say what a person should be able to appreciate in a film? I have a mommy...I certainly do not need you. I have raised two sons to adulthood and probably have been watching films & reading comics since before you were a zygote. I know what I like and I do not make any appologies for it...I love Demolition Man, Highlander, Army of Darkness, Escape from New York, Big Trouble in Little China,Seven Samurai, Das Boot... and I enjoyed UltraViolet...great no...enjoyed yes.

Now...if you cannot respect that other people see things different, than you are more than immature...you have a superiority complex which is but a guise for a inferiority complex.

There are people that will not like this film. I can accept that. Learn to accept that people will enjoy things that you will not.

[Psyclops]

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sf said:

I just dont like it when people dont actually think about what makes a movie good and all they do is look at the pretty colors.

I have a mommy...I certainly do not need you. I have raised two sons to adulthood and probably have been watching films & reading comics since before you were a zygote.

Nice.

You are a titan. You are a monolith.

[SF]

Its not about liking what I like. There are movies I dont like, but can see others enjoying. The problem is people enjoying crap and that crap making money and Hollywood is over there saying,"oh this crap does sale, we need to make more of it and quick!" then we are all back here saying, "why isnt there anything good coming out of hollywood?' Cause we are out there eating up anything they put out and they know they'll make money off of it so they dont need to try. and thats why i get upset when people will just see anything.

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SF said:

Its not about liking what I like. There are movies I dont like, but can see others enjoying. The problem is people enjoying crap and that crap making money and Hollywood is over there saying,"oh this crap does sale, we need to make more of it and quick!" then we are all back here saying, "why isnt there anything good coming out of hollywood?' Cause we are out there eating up anything they put out and they know they'll make money off of it so they dont need to try. and thats why i get upset when people will just see anything.

I see what your saying about Hollywood making alot of shitty movies lately, but again this just goes back to personal preference and choice. No one is making u see any movies that u do not want to see. And also not everything is going to be great, we go to the movies to be entertained, not everything is going to be great like Lord of the Rings, sometimes you have to take things for what they are, such as popcorn flicks. No one goes in a Jerry Bruckheimer produced film, or a Michael Bay directed film expecting Oscar type stuff, you go to them to be entertained.

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nouseforaname said:

wtf said:

Actually treating vampirism as a disease (virus/bacteria)is a fairly used idea even before Blade. The Hunger explored this. I can also dig up a few horror authors who have used this idea. So I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

Ah ok I was not aware of that, plus borrowing from other ideas and such is not to big a deal since its done all the time now days.

I agree. There is alot of borrowing and advancing of ideas...not to mention people can come up with the same idea independantly. It's when there is a blatant copy of a idea that is practically verbatim that drives me up the wall. Like how many times the the creature from Alien has been copied in terms of look/feel in sci-fi films. "oh look! It has a second jaw that comes out of the first one...where did I see that before?" ;D

So how vampirism is treated in UV didn't bother me at all. I rather liked the fact that it was downplayed.

[Wraith]

jackmode said:

im starting to love it more than EQ....because i like milla more than i like bale......i like seeing her kick ass more than i like seeing bale kick ass....

Sorry I didn't really HATE Ultraviolet, but that is probably the most wrong thing I've heard on the UV threads.

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wraith said:

jackmode said:

im starting to love it more than EQ....because i like milla more than i like bale......i like seeing her kick ass more than i like seeing bale kick ass....

Sorry I didn't really HATE Ultraviolet, but that is probably the most wrong thing I've heard on the UV threads.

He's just saying that he'd rather see a hot chick kick ass more than a hot dude.

[Wraith]

I know, but bale's a better actor. And Equilibrium is just much, much better than uv.

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wraith said:

I know, but bale's a better actor. And Equilibrium is just much, much better than uv.

Just speaking from the male hormone point of view. *insert really goofy grin here*

I'm in total agreement. With the added bonus of being female and also biased in the chemical direction. LOL.

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jackmode said:

im starting to love it more than EQ....because i like milla more than i like bale......i like seeing her kick ass more than i like seeing bale kick ass....

Sorry I didn't really HATE Ultraviolet, but that is probably the most wrong thing I've heard on the UV threads.

Haha no kidding......

[JenGe]

He is entitled to his opinion just like anyone else.

[jackmode]

EQ is a great movie too me....

.....but as i stated before.....ultraviolet is a collection of my favorite elements from my favorite movies.....

....thrown into a never before seen unapologetic over the top world.....with a beatiful woman...kicking huge ammounts of ass.....

.....bale can act better than milla.....does that mean i have to like the movie more......

.....no....does that make EQ a better movie......i guess.....but isnt that up to the individual watching it???

......it seems as though this board is full of reasonable people........so i would expect.......that you would at least be able to understand that UV prolly does more for me than EQ ....

.....like i said.....UV has a collection of my favorite movie elements in ONE MOVIE........

......for some people ......the movie that has thier collection of favorite elements is the matrix.....

.....for some its T2.......for others its EQ.......it basicly depends on what your favorite movie elements are....

.....and ive listed them out for all to see.....

.....not to mention i like the over-the-top out there style of UV ....more than the dark style of EQ....

.....but i love em both...im just starting to love UV more...especially as i learn the plot points.....

.....and thats why im going to buy the book.....and the movie is 80 percent downloaded on my computer as of right now......

......and before anyone yells "you monster...your stealing".....i saw the movie twice at the theater already.....and im going back tommorow....and watching it with my grandma...and im paying.....

5.75 + 8.00 + 5.75 + 5.75

thats 25.25 .....and thats prolly more than most on this board has spent on the movie.....

....not to mention im buyin the dvd the day it comes out......

.....anyway....if my reasons cant help you at least UNDERSTAND where im coming from....

....then yea.....jen is right.....everyone is entitled to thier opinion....

[JenGe]

OMG!!! What the hell cryptic post was that???

I need to go find Bablefish...

[jackmode]

lot to get across......