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Post by Libby on Dec 3, 2004 13:26:44 GMT -5
The screen shots dont show up. Sorry...I got a bit ticked at not getting even a teeny thanks for my efforts from the person who originally wanted them ...so I deleted them from my photobucket account. What's the point of hosting stuff if it's not appreciated? I do pay to have the account, after all. But since others may want them...here they are again...hope they're useful.
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Post by Deganveran on Dec 19, 2004 6:22:20 GMT -5
Such a thing exsists in a diffrent form. It is used by spies and a railing of aluminum or other bendable metal is sewn into a track on the sleeve. When they go to shake someones hand they move there arm so the gun hidden at the top will slide down the ramp and into their hands. I dont think one can create such a thing with enough force to reload a clip, and theres still putting a bullet in the chamber./
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Post by JonPreston on Dec 22, 2004 15:52:32 GMT -5
Preston u say u have a Prototype of the mashine can u send me pictures ?
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Post by JonPreston on Jan 7, 2005 11:36:02 GMT -5
Pleace Help Me
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Post by JonPreston on Jan 7, 2005 20:45:28 GMT -5
JEEEEPEEEE I FOUND A PICTURE FROM THAT WEAPON LOADER ^^
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Post by TrustKill on Jan 13, 2005 5:04:48 GMT -5
methinks ive already commented waaaaaaayyyy too many times on about how not possible this is.
the closest you can do is probably with a drawer rail like from a dresser like there is in taxi driver. still, there is no spring loading and he uses it to carry the whole gun, not just the magazine. getting all those things to work together is more trouble than its worth. airsoft or not, ill have put 5 rounds in you from a fresh magazine before you can line up your wrist with the stupid magazine that is supposed to poke out of your sleeve.
-then i would probably spit on you. and laugh.
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Post by Achilles on Jan 14, 2005 22:52:44 GMT -5
that pic above is not a loader, it is a detachable stock that can hold extra ammo and cleaning supplies inside, but it does not load anything automaticaly. it is used to stablize an ordinarily unacurate weapon.
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Post by Preston on Jan 14, 2005 23:01:17 GMT -5
Preston u say u have a Prototype of the mashine can u send me pictures ? yep, my scanner is broke, so it will be a while.
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EliteCleric
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Post by EliteCleric on Jan 24, 2005 8:21:49 GMT -5
Yea dude i am trying to learn this crap and ive been trying to get a makeshiftloader and ive watched Taxi Driver and the guy on that makes one with a drawer and some screws go watch that and maybe you will get it
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ClericLaw
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Post by ClericLaw on Feb 1, 2005 12:33:47 GMT -5
In the movie Red Heat with Jim Belushi and Arnold S., the bad guy actually has a derrenger that comes from his sleeves. In one scene he is putting the gun on the wrist loader. If you could somehow get a picture of it, you madel your loader after it.
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 6, 2005 16:56:27 GMT -5
Cool Idea, but o dont find a man what can make this pictures for me
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Post by Preston on Feb 7, 2005 11:10:18 GMT -5
okay, ive done some more research, and im now using magnets in the design, its much eaiser than before. pics are soon to come, i promise! -Preston
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 7, 2005 16:24:13 GMT -5
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Post by Preston on Feb 7, 2005 18:02:10 GMT -5
the link doesnt work
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Post by Preston on Feb 9, 2005 14:14:54 GMT -5
okay, i see it now.
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 9, 2005 23:58:52 GMT -5
Its not so good, but it works i waiting for ur pictures i think its a good plan for make my better
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 14, 2005 8:28:54 GMT -5
need the help
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 18, 2005 12:15:03 GMT -5
i Wait and Wait...
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Post by Preston on Feb 19, 2005 10:22:46 GMT -5
dont worry!, i reinstalled my scaner today, so its coming. -Preston
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Post by JonPreston on Feb 24, 2005 17:32:42 GMT -5
ok, iam waiting
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Post by JonPreston on Mar 17, 2005 16:25:08 GMT -5
Preston, Do ypu whant to lying us ?
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DemonEyedGunman
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Post by DemonEyedGunman on Mar 26, 2005 4:56:43 GMT -5
Let me just say a couple of things here. The guns used in the film are Beretta 92fs' not Desert Eagles, not M93Rs, they are Beretta 92fs 9mm that when unmodified have the largest legal mag for a handgun in the U.S. The ones in the movie have been converted to full auto and have a barrel extension/ possible compensator. The mechanism that moves the guns from his sleeves to his hands are very much real, but they are designed for small compact guns. The biggest gun that I have seen supported by one is a Walther PPK. If you guys are trying to make something, you should at least have real intel on what you are doing.
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Post by Achilles on Mar 26, 2005 20:37:02 GMT -5
Speaking on getting the facts right. The FN Hearstal five-seven (5.7mm) Has a 20 round standard legal mag as does the FN Hearstal fourty-nine(9mm).
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Xusder
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Post by Xusder on Apr 15, 2005 18:28:04 GMT -5
Hmm, this is a toughie.
I don't see how magnets would work, unless they stick so hard to the railing under your arm. (Maybe I'm not getting the picture)
The one I want to make from the movie is the one where he reloads the magazine, so I'll try to focus on that first.
I'll come back with plans to help you guys out.
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Post by Stealth on Apr 22, 2005 17:32:39 GMT -5
Hmm... i just dont see the point in having something to cock the gun when you flick your sleeve... maybe a holster that works properly like that, but a loader is pointless, what happened to loading like most people do i know the little mechanism that comes out of his pocket to load his gun is cool, but come on, 1 set of clips later its out, and useless! and yes, the guns in the film are beretta M92's as the M93s have different slides, and the M92 is more reliable even when converted, as the m93's are prone to jamming the easiest way to get a full auto Gas BB gun M92 style... is the M93R civilian version, they only retail at a bit more than the m92, but are full auto, downside being that most of the valves on them arent high enough flow, killing full auto! where as with a good finger you can shoot off a clip in an m92 damn quickly take care
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Xusder
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Post by Xusder on Apr 24, 2005 2:56:49 GMT -5
You are right, there is no tactical use for the loader what so ever in reality.
But the concept sounds good, like Lara Croft's magazine loader in Tomb Raider (the one where she just swipes both of her H&K USP Match on the loader on her hips).
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Xusder
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Post by Xusder on Apr 24, 2005 2:59:56 GMT -5
Just want to let you know, have not seen Tomb Raider in so many years, so my memory is a bit off on the whole reloading thing.
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Stealth
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Post by Stealth on Apr 24, 2005 4:53:01 GMT -5
yes... but the ones in tomb raider could be seen to have a tactical advantage if they could hold say 14 magazines (7 per side) as even for a trigger happy person, that would still last a while!!!
the only tactical advantage those would have is in a style war!
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Xusder
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Post by Xusder on Apr 24, 2005 22:02:47 GMT -5
Hmm, I do see your point. Maybe if Preston reloaded behind a pillar or during a lull in the fighting, it would have made some more sense. But he is a cleric and he shot the enemy at the same time as he reloaded (I think, now I got to watch the movie again).
Kurt Wimmer should have expanded these ideas into new scenes where maybe Preston is fixing up the gadget to his arms. Or they show footage of training with the gun-out-of-the-arm trick. These tricks have just stumped us all into how they work.
But it would be cool if these gadgets work in real life. A new type of concealed carry where guns just pop out of your arms or you reload without having to reach for a magazine, the magazine just automatically pops into your pistol.
It does work if you think about it. Both your hands are tied up, because you are going guns akimbo, and you need to reload. So all you do is just flip your hand downwards and a fresh magazine comes into place. Not useful in a fire fight but good in cover.
For the gun-magically-popping-out-of-the-arm bit, maybe if you got ambushed by some sort of threat. You rise your hands up, say a few "badass" one-liners, then throw them down, popping out some nice shiny Beretta M92's (not applicable when a guy has a gun to your face, but the element of surprise is there).
Ah, this thinking is making my head hurt. None of this may make sense, but atleast it has got all of us thinking of how movie magic could be translated to the real world.
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Stealth
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Post by Stealth on Apr 25, 2005 16:31:00 GMT -5
im watching the movie now (equilibrium) and i just dont see the point in the clip loading there, as its only 1 set of clips, which would be useless in real life, as your going to use far more than 2 sets of clips! (in airsoft youll use FAR more, especially doing 3 shot down rule)
im going to try to get my cash together after buying a new gaming rig or 2, and then buy the 2 beretta's (either m92 or m93) im considering m93's now, as full auto could be damn funky!!!
if i got the cash i could get 2x m93's but 2x m92s would be by far cheaper, and would look more authentic (well, there is no difference, as the gun barrel will have the eq compensator modded onto it!)
take care
my head hurts now... im just knackered and tired though
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