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Post by Berreta conversion on May 11, 2003 17:48:32 GMT -5
hello, first post, and huge EQ fan (you need to allow sigs, i have a super sweet eq one  ). im also an avid gun owner and i have a awesome idea would it be possible to make a conversion for actual berretas to be like those in the movie? i know id buy it. also a magazine extension with the circular base that bale uses at the end of the movie |
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Post by Bob Mundon on May 11, 2003 17:49:56 GMT -5
uhh, sorry about that, but i cant edit my post and my name is all screwed up lol (new to these forums, very strange)
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Post by Bob Mundon on May 11, 2003 17:51:04 GMT -5
you guys seriusly need an edit feature or something
could someoen change teh title of this thread to "Berreta Conversion"
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Post by JenGe on May 11, 2003 18:04:54 GMT -5
All done!! Welcome to the forum. If you register then you can use signatures, avatars, and edit your posts but I see you already found that. One problem you can't edit posts you made while unregistered. Do you want me to change anything else??
About the gun/mag designs, I'm sure that some manufacturer will end up duplicating them at some point.
Again welcome!!
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Post by JenGe on May 11, 2003 18:22:20 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot to mention.....great sig!!
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Post by MrsPreston on May 12, 2003 5:47:59 GMT -5
C:):)L SIG!!!  Do u have more? |
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Post by BobMundon on May 13, 2003 22:56:43 GMT -5
nope sorry, i didnt make it, i just told a guy who makes cool sigs about it and this was kind of my reward
ive been using that quote for like 3 years (again im what you would call a gun nut) but its even more appropriate for equilibrium
on a related note, i got it and forced my friend to hold a equilibrium party, still as cool as the first 2 times i saw it in theaters
i hope someone makes a conversion, it would be really awesome, and coupled with the magazines would be even better. just too bad no one could duplicate the muzzle flash
so how the hell did they do the muzzle flash in the first place? computers?
and just so you know, best buy sold out 10 copies in 4 hours, and from what i gather this isnt isolated
i smell cult
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Post by JenGe on May 14, 2003 12:14:13 GMT -5
so how the hell did they do the muzzle flash in the first place? computers? and just so you know, best buy sold out 10 copies in 4 hours, and from what i gather this isnt isolated i smell cult I would assume they used computers but I could be wrong. And yes, many stores are selling out. They have again highly underestimated this film.  |
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Post by BobMundon on May 15, 2003 19:15:26 GMT -5
i could have told you that the first second i saw that movie
it would be hard (if not impossble) to have the flash flare out like that on the end, although if it could be done it would be soooooooo awesome, even if youd have to have movie blanks to see it.
well, on another forums i hang out (gun forum completely not connected with equilibrium) someone suggested teh same thing i did. obviously i am not alone
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Post by MindFlare on May 18, 2003 1:37:40 GMT -5
I found this thread and thought I'd reply.
"so how the hell did they do the muzzle flash in the first place? computers?"
If you watch the DVD with the director commentary turned on, you'd know that they installed a special strobe light to the end of Bale's guns and to the 'squibs' in the infantry guy's suits. This is the first time its been done in a movie and gives a vivid and VERY real effect to the guns and muzzle flash. There is no delay.
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Post by JenGe on May 18, 2003 11:03:26 GMT -5
Hey MindFlare...welcome to the site and forum!!
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Post by BobMundon on May 18, 2003 15:32:26 GMT -5
I found this thread and thought I'd reply. "so how the hell did they do the muzzle flash in the first place? computers?" If you watch the DVD with the director commentary turned on, you'd know that they installed a special strobe light to the end of Bale's guns and to the 'squibs' in the infantry guy's suits. This is the first time its been done in a movie and gives a vivid and VERY real effect to the guns and muzzle flash. There is no delay. im talking about teh cross, not that scene |
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Post by MindFlare on May 20, 2003 19:35:32 GMT -5
What cross? You mean the time he shoots and the flash will look like the Grammaton symbol? Im almost positive they added that in...although it could just be a weird side effect of the strobes.
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Post by BMaloney on May 23, 2003 23:13:52 GMT -5
Yeah that muzzle flash I'm pretty sure they added it in. That's pretty much physically impossible..
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Post by vader on May 24, 2003 14:35:48 GMT -5
yes I also bet there's going to be a cult following for this movie. Too bad the budget was 20 mil and it sure didn't make it back. I hope someone makes a sequel although that is looking bad since the movie made only a bit over 1 million of that back in the theatres. us.imdb.com/Business?0238380But then it'll sure make a bunch back on DVD. |
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Post by JenGe on May 24, 2003 20:25:48 GMT -5
yes I also bet there's going to be a cult following for this movie. Too bad the budget was 20 mil and it sure didn't make it back. I hope someone makes a sequel although that is looking bad since the movie made only a bit over 1 million of that back in the theatres. us.imdb.com/Business?0238380But then it'll sure make a bunch back on DVD. Actually the IMDb numbers are misleading since EQ was in the green even before it was released into the theaters. Wimmer covered it in an interview @ Sci/Fi Dimensions... |
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Post by manatarms on Jun 25, 2003 12:49:57 GMT -5
I am a regular shooter at the range and a evade gun collector (as much as my budget will afford) who loves movies with great gun fighting scenes, so of course this movie is near the top of my list. As far as the conversion goes, the out side appearance is possible, through a number of compensators and barrel extenders that have been used in a number of other moves (i.e. The Professional) even though there will be some custom work that will need to be done to get it looking just right. The one thing that will be almost impossible is the selector switch that is above the trigger guard. Because not only are they illegal, but also on the real full-auto Berettas they are in a different spot. And the round bases on the magazines should not be too hard to do either. I am starting to look for parts to use, although I know that I will not be able to afford them. Also I am pretty sure that an Air soft version of the gun is on its way because they love to put out guns from movies, so I may just want to see how they do that before trying to build this thing.
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Post by StarDancer on Jun 25, 2003 13:15:09 GMT -5
I don't collect guns, I collect swords. An elegant weapon. ;D It would be cool to have a replica of the cerimonial sword that Preston carries when he's meeting Father. Oh, well. Probably no one will make it, unless there's a demand for it. I usually get my stuff from The Noble Collection, I'll have to write them and see what they say. |
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Post by Psoriac on Jun 25, 2003 22:57:32 GMT -5
The one thing that will be almost impossible is the selector switch that is above the trigger guard. Because not only are they illegal, but also on the real full-auto Berettas they are in a different spot. Another reason is that the firing mode selector is actually the modified slide release lever... and since on Berettas the slide comes off to the front of the gun, the compensator makes this particular convesion impossible. Well it's possible, but you would have to have it professionally disassembled in order to clean it. Another aspect are the spikes in the magazine... at least in the USA, such a conversion would be illegal as well. |
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Post by Guest on Jul 19, 2003 7:54:25 GMT -5
Ugh, I found this site when I was looking for pictures of a gun that is going to be made for me, it's called the 'cleric' and it's a replica of those guns that they use- I was going to get 'ebony' and 'ivory' made- but that would have cost close to 9thousand pounds. So, my friend; the person that is going to make them for me, said that I should concider the 'clerics' that they look badass. And I must say, I'm liking how they look. My friend works as a trainee armourer[is that's how you spell it] and he said that they can make almost any gun you have seen in film (Because someone has had to make them, so there must be the plans about) and almost any gun from a game (Because the people that made the 3d models also make the plans for the gun) The 'clerics' are going to cost about £600 for the pair. so it's a sweet buy. -Smith  |
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Post by JenGe on Jul 19, 2003 9:11:24 GMT -5
The 'clerics' are going to cost about £600 for the pair. so it's a sweet buy. -Smith Hey Smith, that is just too kewl. If you ever get a link for them or more information on how we can order them please...please post it here!!! |
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Post by Kintaro on Jul 25, 2003 5:32:08 GMT -5
Anyone interested in purchasing a plastic full scale version of the gun in Equilibrium or uniforms that Preston wore in the film contact me at -kainkeai@eudoramail.com- These are not official reproductions. Serious inquiries only!
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Post by Kintaro on Jul 25, 2003 5:35:55 GMT -5
Anyone interested in purchasing a plastic full scale version of the gun in Equilibrium or uniforms that Preston wore in the film contact me at -kainekai@eudoramail.com- These are not official reproductions. Serious inquiries only! (I made a mistake on my email address, this one should be correct!)
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Post by DeeDee on Jul 28, 2003 3:24:16 GMT -5
Another reason is that the firing mode selector is actually the modified slide release lever... and since on Berettas the slide comes off to the front of the gun, the compensator makes this particular convesion impossible. Well it's possible, but you would have to have it professionally disassembled in order to clean it. Another aspect are the spikes in the magazine... at least in the USA, such a conversion would be illegal as well. It's actually not that hard to do,the support rail under the gun and an extended recoil rod are what hold the muzzle end on,not to mention that they are fitted with type II M93R barrels that are longer and so extend into the compensator  There are quite a few different guns used in the film,some are semi auto ..some are fully auto...it's just a question of changing a simple sear inside to go from semi to full.(or in the case of the 93R 3 shot burst) On a side note..pretty much ALL slides come off over the front of firearms (with the noteable exceptions of some of the Strayer guns) Usually it's pull back/release catch and slide forward. cheers Dee |
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Post by Mafia Leader on Aug 9, 2003 20:53:13 GMT -5
Hah, heya Mundon. Nice to see you broaden your horizons  And yes, guys, you'd use blanks to create such a muzzle flash. It's not all hard. But I've not seen it do the Cleric symbol... P.S. The forums that Mundon is talking about is the Weapons forums @ www.firearmsmod.com |
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Post by XFalloutX on Aug 11, 2003 23:43:08 GMT -5
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Post by GunKata on Aug 17, 2003 2:23:15 GMT -5
those arent extended clips they have jyros to stay up right. ;D
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Post by steve on Oct 25, 2003 8:07:53 GMT -5
The clerics were made by www.area51airsoft.com in airsoft, but i think they have been discontinued now. There were about £160 for the semi autos i think. The fully auto ones were a bit more. |
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Post by askew on Nov 15, 2003 9:23:41 GMT -5
The conversion for the cleric handguns wouldn't just be cosmetic. They are a much larger caliber than 9mm (as normal berretas are). Look the the bottom of the magaine, to a real one. I'd guess the clerics are firing .44 or even the massive .50 AE (like in the matrix agents desert eagles). Which brings me to another point... how the hell can you fire .44 or .50AE on fully auto or have really really high capacity magaines - oohhh well |
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Post by sabeltandcavia on Nov 15, 2003 13:32:15 GMT -5
Askew.. what's the largest caliber handgun you've ever shot? For me that would be the .45 (or .357 magnum powerwise I guess), and I can tell you there's NO WAY those guns could be fired accurately, single handed in a full auto version. It's already pretty much impossible with the MP5K, in 9mm to fire accurate in full auto, holding it with two hands! (download some vids on kazaa and see for yourself) My guess is that the caliber is actually SMALLER than 9mm, it's the only way to explain in the huge amounts of rounds in the clips. If I'd have to design the Cleric gun though, I would most likely choose for a type of encased ammo, like certain tank-shells. It's basically a normal round (say, 9mm) composed of two halves, with a dart like projectile inside. When the round leaves the barrel, the shell falls in two, launching the dart at up to 4 times the normal muzzle velocity (sometimes even more) the dart gains so much speed that it's able to penetrate thick armor. Here's a picture of some tank shells. Nr. 2 and 4 are dart rounds.  |
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There are quite a few different guns used in the film,some are semi auto ..some are fully auto...it's just a question of changing a simple sear inside to go from semi to full.(or in the case of the 93R 3 shot burst)
