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Post by pyro on Jan 9, 2004 17:20:35 GMT -5
hey shamus, its been quite awhile
so equilbirum ripped off the matrix reloaded!
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Post by shamus on Jan 10, 2004 9:23:58 GMT -5
Hey pyro Yeah I've not been here posting for a while but have being checking the threads from time to time seing if there would be something in which I would have some input ;D Actually I took that grab from the first Matrix. I think it was the scene where they are taking Neo to see the Oracle PS. Do I get a can of Coke now? ;D
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Post by JenGe on Jan 10, 2004 13:19:14 GMT -5
PS. Do I get a can of Coke now? ;D Well, since Kurt Wimmer is the one who knows the correct answer you'd have to contact him. You could be wrong you know.
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Post by Rymel on Jan 11, 2004 1:59:01 GMT -5
since he's a hollywood director we'll have to ask him exactly what kind of coke...
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Post by MisterAnderson on Jan 11, 2004 5:32:05 GMT -5
I don't think he stole that shot from the Matrix.
The shot in Equilibrium is a linear dolly shot moving away from Preston that reveals all the resistance members gradually, where as the one from the Matrix is a like a circular pan and everyone is in frame when the camera stops moving.
I think he was relipcating a "phone call" scene from some other movie exactly as it is in the other film. (ie: using a slow moving dolly shot)
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Post by ClericMike on Jan 13, 2004 17:39:37 GMT -5
This is really bugging me now. I'll start watching every single movie ever made until I get the answer!
My first theory was that he stole the shot from Resident Evil, which was loaded with dolly shots and no shortage of steadi-cam. But then again, there's no phones in that movie.
If only he could have ripped off a skip-frame tracking shot like in the opening credits of Reservoir Dogs, I could be enjoying a Coke right now.
P.S.- Is anyone else curious as to how many "homages" Kurt is going to put in Ultravioet?
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Post by Deimos on Jan 15, 2004 12:57:40 GMT -5
I dunno about the Matrix thing. What, so there's a guy on the phone and people in the background so it must be the same shot? Hmmm.
I do recognise the shot of Jurgen, Preston and co though. It's bugging me that I can't remember where from...
Deimos
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Post by JenGe on Jul 3, 2004 7:22:14 GMT -5
Hey!! Why is that post that was here now gone?? I thought some really decent ideas were presented & I had to think on it before I could respond.
Where'd it go??
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Post by Lawrence on Jul 6, 2004 12:43:31 GMT -5
I saw the DVD again and just after Kurt Wimmer made the coke promise he also remarked that he will be buying lots of cokes. This seem to suggest that the scene is blindingly obvious. My guess is it's either the Matrix or Godfather. Remember he was specific about the phone scene at the resistance's HQ. From the look of it my money(or coke) is on the Godfather.
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Post by TrustKill on Jul 6, 2004 15:13:37 GMT -5
since he's a hollywood director we'll have to ask him exactly what kind of coke... -baahahhaha!
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Post by JenGe on Jul 6, 2004 16:41:17 GMT -5
This seem to suggest that the scene is blindingly obvious. I tend to somewhat agree with you there except for that fact that a few of the films he's stated as inspiration are a bit out there...Saturday Night Fever & Hair?? I'm sure if he had not flat out stated those no one would have picked up on them.
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Post by Debra Murphy on Jul 12, 2004 9:15:08 GMT -5
I'm new here. I caught a piece of this movie on tv last week, and had one of those delicious little "what-is-this- movie-and-where-has-it-been-all-my-life?" moments. Then rushed out and rented it, and now our entire family (we have six kids) has seen it several times, and I've ordered it from Amazon. Besides thinking that we (all of a sudden) could understand why they picked Bale for Batman--I kept thinking of him as Laurie in Little Women--we also fell in love with Wimmer, and were shocked that this thing got terrible reviews. So thank God for this wonderful site--one of the best I've ever seen by fans--and that the film has nonetheless found its audience.
Anyhoo, about that tantalizing scene...besides The Godfather, I was reminded of a scene in Dr. Strangelove, where Peter Sellers is on the phone (in the War Room) speaking with "Dmitri". My son the wannabe-auteur says he thinks it's not quite the same--the dolly and so forth--but I thought if someone out there had a copy of the movie it might be worth looking at. I, too, feel like I've seen this shot before, and it's absolutely gonna bug me now until someone figures it out.
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Post by JenGe on Jul 12, 2004 10:59:17 GMT -5
... (we have six kids) ... The webmaster, me, loves anyone with six kids. We have eight. And thanks for the comps. on the site. It really means a lot to me. I wonder if we'll ever know for sure. BTW, welcome to the site!!
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Post by Debra Murphy on Jul 13, 2004 9:19:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome, JenGe, it's fun to be here. I'm a reasonably web-savvy person, but this joint is spectacular. <I>Eight</I> kids? Okay, I'm impressed. I'm Catholic, what's your excuse?
You know, this entire discussion reminds me that movies are now a mature art form in which the "author" can employ allusions to other films in order to enrich the experience. I get a huge bang out of this sort of thing, don't know why.
But I'm still bugged about this scene. I can't believe, after two years, no one has figured this out! I shall have to put my-son-the-wannabe-auteur on a quest for this holy grail.
debra@debramurphy.com
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Post by JenGe on Jul 13, 2004 10:19:05 GMT -5
But I'm still bugged about this scene. I can't believe, after two years, no one has figured this out! I shall have to put my-son-the-wannabe-auteur on a quest for this holy grail. debra@debramurphy.com Hey, let me know if you guys come up with anything!! Good luck on the quest!!
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Post by Debra Murphy on Aug 8, 2004 10:51:36 GMT -5
We introduced the movie to my oldest son's best friend, a terrific young man who loves movies and, having dealt with some manic-depression in his life, can relate, I think, to the problem of prescription drugs messing around with one's emotions.
Well, he loved the film, and when we put the Big Question to him, immediately thought he'd seen the scene in a film over the winter. He thought it was The Dirty Dozen. Well, we watched TDD--I for the first time in thirty years, and its a definitive no. (Pretty decent movie, though, still holds up after all these years.) However, it did make me think that the film might be a WWII film, since the whole borrowing, from Wimmer's comments, includes a phone call from "the Resistance."
The other thing that occurs to me is that Wimmer is a self-confessed genre movie lover. I think we should keep our minds open not only to the classic Big movies but also the classic B genre movies.
So help me here, people, what are some of the Big (or "B") WWII movies that deal with the Resistance? I love WWII movies anyway, so it would be a fun search.
Debra
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Post by JenGe on Aug 9, 2004 8:44:04 GMT -5
Hey Debra, I like those ideas of yours about what film it might be. I think the problem is that most of us have actually given up until Wimmer himself says something about it. You are just more vigilant than the rest of us.
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Post by efiore on May 12, 2007 14:29:00 GMT -5
I thought that I´ve seen a shot like this in "clockwork orange", but I might be wrong.... o.O?
The Jesus reference apppears the most appropriate to me.
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