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Post by ClericMike on Sept 28, 2003 12:10:48 GMT -5
Here's your situation:
Preston meets Neo.
Neo says "My movie is a multi-million dollar juggernaut."
Preston says "So what?"
Neo says "We had enough money to make three movies."
Preston says "I don't care. We accomplished in one movie what you can only do in three movies. Plus, your coat looks like a dress."
Neo says "That's it! I'm jealous of Equilibrium's profound coolness! We are gonna throw down and boogie!!!!"
So there ya go, folks.
Preston and Neo fight.
What would happen in the fight?
And who would win?
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Post by shamus on Sept 28, 2003 12:52:50 GMT -5
Because Neo would not be inside the Matrix the fight would not take long ;D
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Post by Akimbo on Sept 28, 2003 14:46:33 GMT -5
Neo would see Preston's mad shooting skills  and go running back into the Matrix like a scared baby. |
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Post by JenGe on Sept 28, 2003 16:20:07 GMT -5
Preston and Neo fight. What would happen in the fight? And who would win? Are we in the Matrix or the Real World?? Anyone got a red pill??  |
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Post by BMaloney on Sept 28, 2003 17:18:02 GMT -5
I don't think the phrase 'throw down and boogie' was the right one for the context. LOL!
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Post by ClericEd on Sept 28, 2003 18:50:20 GMT -5
We had this theory thrown at us before....and:
Preston: "bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang"
Neo: "stops bullets"
Preston: "bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang"
Neo: "stops bullets"
Preston: "Reloads"
Neo: "Flies"
Preston: "bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang"
Neo: "stops bullets"
etc, etc, etc. Deadlock ;D
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Post by CQB The Guest on Sept 28, 2003 19:57:07 GMT -5
There are alot of factors that can affect the outcome, such as, is it in the real world or matrix?
-is Preston ON prozium or off?
-Is Neo from the first Matrix or Reloaded, or even Revolutions?
-How would Preston get his weapons if he was in the Matrix?
-How would Neo get weapons?
-Whos fiting style would dominate? (Neo= all types of karate, Preston= Pre-emtive attacks by striking someone before they strike back)
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Post by ClericRyan on Sept 29, 2003 11:25:15 GMT -5
simple question, If in the Matrix Neo would win, if in the real world Preston would win with out opeing his eyes Neo is a hobo outside of the matrix
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Post by ClericMike on Sept 29, 2003 14:43:15 GMT -5
Let me to make the context clearer:
Don't think about both movie's plot lines.
The fight takes place in Libria.
John is off the Prozium, and Neo is not in the Matrix. He has none of his godly powers, but he has all of his martial arts skills. Either of them can use absolutely any weapons they want. (Preston will have his guns, and Neo could probably get his hands on some hardware too ;D) The Neo I am referring to is the one of Reloaded.
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Post by CQB The GUest on Sept 29, 2003 15:13:02 GMT -5
I got a better idea, since we all know Preston would dominate in the real world, y not just have both of them fite in the real world, but without any weapons, this would force them to use hand-to-hand combat only, and thus make it more fair.
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Post by ClericMike on Sept 29, 2003 17:22:04 GMT -5
That would be interesting to see.
Personally, I think that Preston would win hand-to-hand. Not just because this is an Equilibrium message board, and that Equilibrium was profoundly better than the Matrix, but just by his pure skill and focus.
Think about it, Neo had all of his martial arts expertise digitally fed into his brain. No practice, no focus. He's just fighting. He punches someone's face, and moves on to the next guy.
Preston has a drive to his fighting. He is, like the late Brandt said, always practicing. He can pretty much get out of any situation without a scratch.
Hey, if Preston can kill 13 people in 25 seconds over a puppy, he can sure take on Neo.
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Post by ClericRyan on Sept 30, 2003 8:09:35 GMT -5
Well I have a question about the Matrix I never really figured out, when Neo learns Kung Fu and drops his career line "I know Kung Fu" does he only know kung fu in the matrix or can he bring his skills back to the real world. If he can the hand to hand combat fight would be equel, intill Preston pulled out his guns! lol No but seriously, this topic is a bit played. Matrix fans say Neo, EQ fans say Preston.
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Post by GreyFox on Sept 30, 2003 12:56:20 GMT -5
when Neo learns Kung Fu and drops his career line "I know Kung Fu" does he only know kung fu in the matrix or can he bring his skills back to the real world. . whatever he learns in the matrix he learns in Real Life, because the mind is the same in both places. |
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Post by EvilNed on Sept 30, 2003 13:30:43 GMT -5
Neo would win big time if they were in the Matrix. And he would also win in the real world, because even if Preston would be the better fighter (IF, that is), then there would still be some kind of miracle to save Neo... Remember that...
Another all-powerful martial arts danger thrown into the mix:
Gabriel Yulaw from The One!
Yulaw vs. Preston = Yulaw would win. He could easily dodge Prestons bullets, and is alot faster than even Neo. He could make it up to Preston and snap his neck in mere seconds.
Yulaw vs. Real World Neo = Even if there would be some kind of miracle to save Neo, there would still be the problem of killing Yulaw, thus thinning the lines of 'Law' copies down to one. Who knows what might happen? The world could implode.
Yulaw vs. Matrix Neo = A close call. But Yulaw is faster and stronger. Neo however can stop bullets and fly. This would be a tough call.
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Post by ClericRyan on Sept 30, 2003 13:44:43 GMT -5
Neo would win big time if they were in the Matrix. And he would also win in the real world, because even if Preston would be the better fighter (IF, that is), then there would still be some kind of miracle to save Neo... Remember that... Another all-powerful martial arts danger thrown into the mix: Gabriel Yulaw from The One! Yulaw vs. Preston = Yulaw would win. He could easily dodge Prestons bullets, and is alot faster than even Neo. He could make it up to Preston and snap his neck in mere seconds. Yulaw vs. Real World Neo = Even if there would be some kind of miracle to save Neo, there would still be the problem of killing Yulaw, thus thinning the lines of 'Law' copies down to one. Who knows what might happen? The world could implode. Yulaw vs. Matrix Neo = A close call. But Yulaw is faster and stronger. Neo however can stop bullets and fly. This would be a tough call. Good point I was going to start a thread called who could beat Preston it would be a poll, and one of the chioces would be Yulaw. Was also going to put him agenst, Neo, Li Mubai (CTHD), and my pick would be Terry from Streetfighter(just because he is such a badass) and Tequila from John Woo , and of course The Iron Monkey Yu Rong-guang , and The Drunken Master Wong Fei Hung would all be worthy. But could anyone beat Gabrial Yulaw ? Im not sure Gabriel Yulaw would be a serious advisary for any hero to face |
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Post by CQB THe Guest on Sept 30, 2003 15:00:01 GMT -5
But!...If u put in Yulaw, then thats completely ridiculous, Its like sayin gettin someone from a different universe to fight another character from another different universe, we know these things cant happen because one of them will definitely dominate the other. Preston and Neo are both REAL PEOPLE, they don't have special powers or hi-tech suits, all they have are skills and guns. If u dump in Yulaw, who has the speed and agility of like 50x that of a regular person, Than ofcourse he's gonna win!, no question about, But thats also y u cant have him fite, cause its just one of theo "no contest" type fights, when we already know whos gonna win.
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Post by ClericMike on Sept 30, 2003 15:23:26 GMT -5
Yes Gabe Yulaw would probably mop the floor with Preston. Even still, that would be cool to see.
But are you referring to the good Gabe or the bad Gabe?
Because the good Gabe, I'm not so sure. He got his butt walloped pretty good in The One.
And someone mentioned Wong Fei Hung from The Legend of Drunken Master. Preston without a doubt, because like I said, the fight is in Libria, and there is no alcohol in Libria, and Wong is not at his prime fighting condition when he is sober, even if he did take on like a hundred guys in that restaurant.
Perhaps a better question to throw out there is the coolness factor.
Which character, regardless of fighting expertise, would you hate to be your enemy just because they look so freakin' cool?
That's where Yulaw loses points. He's an awesome fighter, but he isn't very marketable.
Neo is kind of cool, but I see him as all flash and no substance.
Preston has the look and the expressions to go with it. This may sound biased because I love Equilibrium so much, but If you put them in the same room together, I'd probably choose Preston.
What do you guys think?
P.S.- The fighting question still stands.
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Post by ClericRyan on Sept 30, 2003 15:30:21 GMT -5
Yes Gabe Yulaw would probably mop the floor with Preston. Even still, that would be cool to see. But are you referring to the good Gabe or the bad Gabe? Because the good Gabe, I'm not so sure. He got his butt walloped pretty good in The One. And someone mentioned Wong Fei Hung from The Legend of Drunken Master. Preston without a doubt, because like I said, the fight is in Libria, and there is no alcohol in Libria, and Wong is not at his prime fighting condition when he is sober, even if he did take on like a hundred guys in that restaurant. Perhaps a better question to throw out there is the coolness factor. Which character, regardless of fighting expertise, would you hate to be your enemy just because they look so freakin' cool? That's where Yulaw loses points. He's an awesome fighter, but he isn't very marketable. Neo is kind of cool, but I see him as all flash and no substance. Preston has the look and the expressions to go with it. This may sound biased because I love Equilibrium so much, but If you put them in the same room together, I'd probably choose Preston. What do you guys think? P.S.- The fighting question still stands. Well First off, Wong Fei Hung with a potion of his specail drink would win, without, I guess your right but the drunken master could still kung fu Prestons ass, I mean he showed some skills, but we are talking about Wong Fei Hung here, and it would be extreemly unlikly that Preston could beat him without his guns. Pretson I would say is cooler then evryone and everything except maybe Morphious who wins the coolness vote because of his vioce and hair cut Still, Terry from Streetfighter would give them both a run in the coolnes factor only because he is such a badass |
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Post by EvilNed on Sept 30, 2003 16:08:07 GMT -5
Good Gabe could probably kill preston and Neo as well, altough not as easily. But Gabriel knows how to use his powers and is also a fully trained MVA agent. (One can only assume they forego quite a bit of training, especially since Roedecker was actually able to put up somewhat of a fight against Yulaw...).
But yes, Gabriel Law and Gabe Yulaw are a bit to 'overpowered'... But then again, so is Neo in his Matrix form.
What about Connor MacLeod or the Terminator? Perhaps even Robocop?
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Post by Madtex on Sept 30, 2003 19:04:13 GMT -5
except maybe Morphious who wins the coolness vote because of his vioce and hair cut You'd love my buddy Geoff Tate from Queensrÿche then, he has the same look, voice, but he's even cooler and he sings wonderfully too... Sorry that had nothing to do with the post, carry on  |
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Post by CQB The GUest on Sept 30, 2003 21:19:38 GMT -5
U see guys? my point is that, if theres going to be a fight, than it has to be fair, no doubt Gabe will dominate because of his "inhuman" powers, as for the rest of the group, then i agree it'll be more fair to have our drunken master fite our other 2 opponents. But lets add more ppl in since we're at it!...how about Solid Snake from the MGS series (yes, i kno, hes a video game character, but he's still only a man!) or James Bond, lol, or maybe even Gary Coleman, im pretty sure Gary can mop the floor with Neo *bites and chews keanu's ear*...  |
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Post by ClericMike on Sept 30, 2003 21:40:59 GMT -5
Ooooh this thread is getting juicy.
This might up the stakes a lil bit... Instead of Neo, what about Ghost or Niobe? Ballard? Seraph?
Solid Snake.... um.... He can't fight hand-to-hand haha. He relies on sneaking too much. In a stand up meleé, he doesen't stand a chance.
The Terminator would be owned by Preston's clip spikes of doooooooom.
James Bond would be too busy trying to Poon-Tang Lisa Preston (that's right. I said it.)
Gary Coleman does not chew ears. Mike Tyson does.
Since there's a video game character in here, let's include some more:
Jann Lee- Dead or Alive
Dante- Devil May Cry
Jack Slate- Dead to Rights
Squall Leonhart- Final Fantasy VIII
Tommy Vercetti- GTA: Vice City
Leon Kennedy- Resident Evil 2
Joanna Dark- Perfect Dark
Samus- Metroid
And as for some movie characters, let us compare Preston's ability to weild a sword.
Preston vs. Blade
Preston vs. Aragorn ;D
Preston (with a sword) vs. Vega from Street Fighter
and finally, I just have to ask this one:
Preston vs. Woody Allen
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Post by ClericRyan on Oct 1, 2003 8:15:31 GMT -5
SUPER MARIO ! ! ! ! ! ! !
But Im sure Kupa Troopa would have something to say to Preston to
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Post by ClericMike on Oct 1, 2003 15:46:46 GMT -5
hahahaha.
Mario.... I bet Mario would need Luigi to jump Preston if they fought, but since Clerics know the statistical most likely places people will be in any battle, I imagine that he would also know if anyone is hiding or not.
Mario- OWNED
bonus: Luigi- OWNED
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Post by pyro on Oct 1, 2003 16:58:52 GMT -5
You all are forgetting about somebody... GRAVE! thats right, not only is he already dead, he uses his own coffin as a rocket launcher!  he would have a tough time with this guy though...  |
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Post by CQB The Guest on Oct 1, 2003 18:03:56 GMT -5
A character from a decent Sega shooter? another one from the low budget horror flick Versus? I think not! but, he does have one BFG tho...come on man, Preston will whoop their butts, a dude with a BiiiG gun and another dude with a smaller gun vs. Preston's dual pistols?  I Don't Think So! (no offense), i mean, atleast Preston's got a fighting style, all they have are....guns and bigger guns |
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Post by EvilNed on Oct 1, 2003 18:25:40 GMT -5
PRESTON VS. GODZILLA!!!!1!
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Post by DDRcleric on Oct 2, 2003 21:38:23 GMT -5
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Post by ClericMike on Oct 3, 2003 0:03:15 GMT -5
NoodleCleric, do you have any more pics of Hero? I NEED THEM!!!!!
oh by the way--- I'll still say Preston until Hero comes out... Then we'll see.
Sephiroth? That would be an interesting sword battle. However, are you referring to the Sephiroth you face at the end of the game? I mean the very last one.
Final Sephiroth- OWNED by Preston's sword skills.
PowerPuff Girls- OWNED by Gun Kata.
D- OWNED by Preston's helmet-smashing, face-breaking, glass-shattering spikes of [glow=red,2,100]DOOM[/glow]
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Post by DDRcleric on Oct 3, 2003 0:12:06 GMT -5
NoodleCleric, do you have any more pics of Hero? I NEED THEM!!!!! review and pics for it. also you can go to google.com and look up hero jet li under images thats were i found that one. that site has a lot of otehr reviews for other asian movies. |
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and go running back into the Matrix like a scared baby.
jet li in hero.