Board Home | Search | Login The Resistance HQ :: Resistance Forums :: Resistance Discussions :: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... Author Topic: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... (Read 697 times) JenGe Evidentiary Storage Officer member is offline "Its just a vestigial word for a feeling you've never felt." Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,505 Location: Surfing the Net The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Thread Started on Jun 2, 2005, 12:10pm » The following was posted in the guestbook. Since I do not have time to tackle it right now I thought that some of you knowledgeable people here might. If not I'll get back to it later... Quote: Name: Jae Ok. Lee Email: chaos0k@naver.com Date: Thu Jun 02 10:38:51 EDT 2005 Hi~! I'm a senior student of Chung Buk National University in South Korea. I'm writing my paper about 'Equilibrium'. Title of my paper is "Comparison of Two Distopia -Zamyatin's 'We' and Kurt Wimmer's 'Equilibrium'-". I have a question about this movie. What is the origin of 'LIBRIA'? From Latin? or English?? I think that 'Libria' is originated from 'Liberty' or 'Liberta(Latin)' My inference is right? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." - Truman Show Sontin-JudasFm Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Joined: May 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 998 Location: Back in Surrey! YAY!!! Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #1 on Jun 2, 2005, 12:29pm » Could be, although I think Libria came from the name of the drug Librium; wasn't that what Kurt originally planned instead of Prozium? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "One day they love us because we're unique. The next we're in jail because we're different." Zlang-Zlang Squid Says: Statistics show that no stationary object or parked car has ever hit a moving vehicle except in self defence. JenGe Evidentiary Storage Officer member is offline "Its just a vestigial word for a feeling you've never felt." Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,505 Location: Surfing the Net Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #2 on Jun 2, 2005, 12:41pm » Quote: Could be, although I think Libria came from the name of the drug Librium; wasn't that what Kurt originally planned instead of Prozium? Yes, it was so I'm not 100% sure on his intention. Libria does have other meanings though. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." - Truman Show gunnut Resistance Member member is offline Joined: May 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 71 Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #3 on Jun 2, 2005, 1:37pm » Something to do with liberty, perhaps? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Jae Ok Lee Guest Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #4 on Jun 3, 2005, 10:42am » I think that the term of "Libria" was used for satire. A totalitarian state controls human's liberty. So, I think, director used that term to express totalitarian state's imperfection. -Jae Ok. Lee..from Korea- Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Libby Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it! Joined: Nov 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 3,138 Location: England Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #5 on Jun 5, 2005, 6:37am » Quote: I think that the term of "Libria" was used for satire. A totalitarian state controls human's liberty. So, I think, director used that term to express totalitarian state's imperfection. -Jae Ok. Lee..from Korea- Yes..I can see the link between Libria and liberty (from Latin... Liber: free and Libertas: freedom) Father wants everyone to believe that they are finally free (liberated)of the chaos of emotions which led to virtual annihilation. But I have the feeling that it's more affiliated to Libra as in scales and balance KW already wanted call the film 'Equilibrium' with its connotations of 'balance' and 'stability' via a controlled drug. He intended to call the drug 'Librium' until he found out it existed, but Prozium II works perfectly IMO. « Last Edit: Jun 5, 2005, 6:48am by Libby » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ] Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. Locke Sense Offender member is offline Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1 Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #6 on Jun 5, 2005, 3:05pm » I dont think librium means really anything, as from word liber (free), the form would be liberum and from libri (book) it would be librarium, and of libra (scale) it *would* be librium, but that form isnt in use on its own (to my knowledge). I suspect that the ones who made the drug, as well as the writer, misunderstood the word to be related to freedom, as it sounds pretty much the same. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Libby Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it! Joined: Nov 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 3,138 Location: England Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #7 on Jun 5, 2005, 4:04pm » Quote: I dont think librium means really anything, as from word liber (free), the form would be liberum and from libri (book) it would be librarium, and of libra (scale) it *would* be librium, but that form isnt in use on its own (to my knowledge). I suspect that the ones who made the drug, as well as the writer, misunderstood the word to be related to freedom, as it sounds pretty much the same. This isn't about semantics. The original question from our guest concerned the origins of Libria, the city, not Librium, the drug, therefore both his and my opinions remain valid. I doubt if KW misunderstood anything...I think he knew exactly what he meant to imply. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ] Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. bikemama Guest Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #8 on Jun 10, 2005, 6:26pm » http://www.tribute.ca/movie_spec/1772.htm Interestingly, here they mention the real indications of the existing drug Librium (tm), Chlordiazepoxide. I think the name Libria can be translated into 'land of the free' or something. Father wanted to free people from emotions, and it would be logic to give the city a name which expresses it. « Last Edit: Jun 10, 2005, 6:29pm by bikemama » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Evidentiary Storage Officer member is offline "Its just a vestigial word for a feeling you've never felt." Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,505 Location: Surfing the Net Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #9 on Jun 11, 2005, 12:02pm » Quote: http://www.tribute.ca/movie_spec/1772.htm Interestingly, here they mention the real indications of the existing drug Librium (tm), Chlordiazepoxide. I think the name Libria can be translated into 'land of the free' or something. Father wanted to free people from emotions, and it would be logic to give the city a name which expresses it. I think that this is also supported by the fact that Libria has a "Freedom Reading". Personally, I get the feeling that Wimmer was interpreting an idea of "new speak" from 1984 where words are used and misused for propaganda. Obviously Libria had very little freedom or liberties but used the words anyway to imply that they did. This is a common practice by totalitarian regimes. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." - Truman Show NoClockThing Grammaton Cleric member is offline Beware the look of innocence Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 377 Location: In The Nethers... of your mind Re: The Origin and Meaning of the word Libria... « Reply #10 on Jul 20, 2005, 4:51pm » I always took the name for balance, as in balanced behaviour due to the lack of emotion... at last, we are at peace with ourselves kinda thing. I guess unless somebody asks KW we'll never know, since both interpretations are possible IMHO. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Processing ... 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