Board Home | Search | Login The Resistance HQ :: Resistance Forums :: Resistance Discussions :: Question from the Guestbook... Author Topic: Question from the Guestbook... (Read 1,194 times) JenGe Evidentiary Storage Officer member is offline "Its just a vestigial word for a feeling you've never felt." Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,505 Location: Surfing the Net Question from the Guestbook... « Thread Started on Aug 7, 2005, 11:40pm » The following was posted in the guestbook and I am moving it to here... Name: Bale Fan Email: Date: Mon Aug 08 00:05:19 EDT 2005 Yes, I just watched the movie with a friend and she could not figure out how Preston did not sense his wife was feeling. A good question, I thought maybe it was because she was his wife and although he might have known, he chose to ignore it. Or maybe he truly did not know, but something in the expresson of his face when he saw her before she was arrested said something else. Anybody else have a take on the scene? Just curious. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." - Truman Show MisterAnderson Lead Sweeper The Burly Man member is offline NO BRAWLING! Joined: Sept 2003 Gender: Male Posts: 2,436 Location: Australia Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #1 on Aug 8, 2005, 2:10am » It could also be that it was because of this event (not knowing that his own wife was a SO) that turned him into the "prodigal student" - because something like this happened right under his nose & without even knowing about it that made him analyse the event & his wifes behaviours over the past years to gain an inside knowledge (if you will) of how a Sense Offender thinks. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Mister Andersons Fan Vids frivolity Guest Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #2 on Aug 8, 2005, 3:05am » Quote: It could also be that it was because of this event (not knowing that his own wife was a SO) that turned him into the "prodigal student" - because something like this happened right under his nose & without even knowing about it that made him analyse the event & his wifes behaviours over the past years to gain an inside knowledge (if you will) of how a Sense Offender thinks. I got the impression that his 'sensing' was more innate. Both Preston and Brandt use the word intuitive. I put it down to the fact that at the end of the day, even though Preston did what we consider horrible things, he was still a 'good person' underneath (because he's going to be our hero - and I think that's why the 'wife part' of the story is there) and as such I think he sort of blanked it, maybe not so much consciously. Partridge even says "You always knew." Preston followed up on Partridge when it was too obvious and it was in his own (unconsiously)interest of self-preservation to pick up on it and act. Of course Preston is still very much the cold Cleric at that time. He was simply doing his job. I know Preston says he asked himself why he didn't pick up on his wife's sense offence. And it could be from that experience and possibly a fear of reprisal that makes him act on such an obvious mistake Partiridge makes in his tone of voice and not handing the book in. Anyway, I'm waffling. I hope it doesn't sound too confusuing. I wish I could type faster than I think, by the time I've done half a sentence, I forget what I just thought. « Last Edit: Aug 8, 2005, 3:19am by frivolity » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Libby Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it! Joined: Nov 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 3,138 Location: England Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #3 on Aug 8, 2005, 5:10am » I think we had another thread on this somewhere, but I'm too lazy to search for it...packing for hols. It's another of those intriguing questions. IIRC, we thought that it might centre around the fact that because Preston was really the only true warrior, the only true believer in the system (since DuPont, Brandt et al were hypocritically off the dose anyway) he couldn't comprehend that those closest to him would ever betray those beliefs and therefore 'missed' the signs. He looks shocked (as much as he could be on the dose) when Viviana is arrested. The incident with Partridge in the car is interesting though. Preston does question Partridge's reaction...It does?...but then it's only when DuPont flags it by reminding Preston that he missed the signs with Viviana, that he goes back and replays it... Of course those of us who subscribe to the ultimate conspiracy theories can read all sorts into the various incidents: DuPont knew Viviana was an SO and hoped she'd turn Preston...which didn't happen so she ended up toast. (It's probable that DuPont didn't know about Robbie and Lisa though). Or he hoped incinerating Viviana would trigger something...it didn't and Preston became the TG's best of the best. Mary was the next 'plant'. She turned Partridge but he actually went over to their side and became useless to DuPont, so he got Preston to execute him in the hope killing his partner wold trigger something...it did. He missed his dose... Then introducing Mary to Preston sealed the deal. As friv says, Preston is a decent human being, on or off the dose...something DuPont couldn't understand. Hmm...I've rabbitted enough too, now... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ] Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. wtf Guest Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #4 on Aug 8, 2005, 11:19am » Which reminds me Libby, I don't think you ever saw my entry in the Comic thread: Quote: Brandt and Mary put on their best innocent look when Libby mentioned the conspiracy plot again. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Evidentiary Storage Officer member is offline "Its just a vestigial word for a feeling you've never felt." Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,505 Location: Surfing the Net Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #5 on Aug 8, 2005, 11:24am » Personally I believe that Preston is having major denial issues throughout the film. That is the key when Partridge says, "You always knew." If Preston really looked deep enough within himself he would see the truth of this but he has been denying it and pushing in out of his conscience. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented." - Truman Show frivolity Guest Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #6 on Aug 8, 2005, 12:57pm » And people in this world don't have to be on drugs to suppress/deny things they can't/don't want to face (for whatever reason/circumstance) OMG! That sounds depressing, and terribly serious for such a frivolous thing as myself. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Libby Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it! Joined: Nov 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 3,138 Location: England Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #7 on Aug 8, 2005, 1:03pm » Quote: Which reminds me Libby, I don't think you ever saw my entry in the Comic thread: Quote: Brandt and Mary put on their best innocent look when Libby mentioned the conspiracy plot again. *splurgle* OMG! I so totally missed this!!! Very funneee!! Hmmm...maybe there was no plot at all... And yes I agree with Jen (again) about denial...goes back to the point about Preston's basic decency vying with his 'faith'. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ] Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. NoClockThing Grammaton Cleric member is offline Beware the look of innocence Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 377 Location: In The Nethers... of your mind Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #8 on Aug 8, 2005, 3:15pm » Quote: And people in this world don't have to be on drugs to suppress/deny things they can't/don't want to face (for whatever reason/circumstance) OMG! That sounds depressing, and terribly serious for such a frivolous thing as myself. But they are on drugs, all of them - Prozium, anyone? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Processing ... YABF - Errant Vines Bale Fan Guest Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #9 on Aug 8, 2005, 3:16pm » Thanks for the comments about why he didnt turn in his wife. It does make one think, but what always gets me is the expresson on Prestons wife's face. Its that small hint of a smile that has a deeper meaning behind it then what she shows. There is a rawness in it when she kisses him, kind of takes him by surprise but he does not move to change anything. I am new to this message board and my questions and comments might have been discussed before, still all new to me! As a new fan of a really good movie. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Bale Fan Guest The cut on his neck « Reply #10 on Aug 8, 2005, 6:47pm » I was also curious, or it might be that I just have not figured it out yet.... At the end of the movie when he fights Dupont he appears to have little or no injuries on him, yet when he goes to another part of the building to destroy it and the door opens and two guards fall, there is a cut along his neck. Was he injuried there or did it come from his final fight with Dupont.... It makes me think. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Walldude Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Joined: Dec 2003 Gender: Male Posts: 2,060 Location: Denver Co USA Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #11 on Aug 9, 2005, 2:01am » IIRC there was actually a scene cut out where he got the blood on him.... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged If security you want, create a society that no one wishes to attack you must.- YODA Libby Grammaton Cleric First Class member is offline Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it! Joined: Nov 2003 Gender: Female Posts: 3,138 Location: England Re: Question from the Guestbook... « Reply #12 on Aug 17, 2005, 4:42am » Kurt and Kucas discuss this in the commentary... Commentary Chapter 17 This is the relevant bit... Quote: LF: I don't think we ever talked about it, you and I never talked about it, but um you know the blood that ends up on his neck in the next scene. It sort of seems like a scene was cut out between the two but it actually isn't the case... KW: No it wasn't the case. You know if I could have gone back I would have shot a quick shot of him sustaining that bullet graze in his neck during that last fight. But what really happened was that Christian said to me after we'd shot all that and before we shot this "shouldn't I have some blood on my neck. It may not make sense," and um I decided he was right and I thought the audience would extrapolate that he was just in a gun fight and it wouldn't be too hard to buy that he has blood on his neck. Um, a lot of people did say... there's some things that you have to include and some things that the audience will just fill in. That was one that a lot of people needed filling in. « Last Edit: Aug 17, 2005, 4:43am by Libby » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ] Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. 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